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If you want to be the man, then you got to beat the man. If VT wants to be
the best, then remaining in the ACC or joining another non-P2 conference isn't going to cut it. If VT is content to remain where it is and settle for whatever the fallout looks like, then I will still continue to cheer for VT. That will never change regardless if VT is a member of the P2 or not. Likewise, I will never change my opinion that I wished VT (and WVU) and had left the Big East (Football Conference) and joined the SEC back in the mid-90s. I say that because I will always want to see VT compete against the best and use that as motivation to always get better/evolve instead of being content to rest on its laurels. Outside of basketball and a few non-revenue sports, FSU and the Eight Dwarfs...err I mean the ACC wasn't considered to be the best in football which is the sport that defines VT's athletic identity.
Take your lumps, continue collecting those phat checks, and use that as motivation to evolve and get better. Majority of the time you will end up being better in the long run because your will won't be satisfied if you settle for something less. Unfortunately, VT had been pining for ACC membership since the birth of the ACC and that led to tunnel vision which impacted some of the decisions the leadership made over the years. Even though a decision seemed like the right one at the time, it was right for the short-term, but not necessarily right for the long-term. VT made its bed and now it is laying in it. IIWII so there's no point crying over spilled milk now.
Thread Replies (47)
Will "acceptance" be a factor in P2 expansion?
-- gman86
Mar 28, 2024 at 11:55 AM ET
gman86
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03/28/24 11:55 AM ET
I think there are two likely steps. First, the P2 forms it's own league for
-- HokieToph
Mar 28, 2024 at 06:06 PM ET
HokieToph
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03/28/24 06:06 PM ET
Don't expect any "bottom feeders" to be dropped any time soon.
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 29, 2024 at 09:06 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/29/24 09:06 AM ET
As long as they get the lions share of the money, they will never break
-- Big12 guy
Mar 28, 2024 at 06:32 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/28/24 06:32 PM ET
They are after around a Billion dollars the NCAA takes in for 🏀, that’s a
-- Stech
Mar 29, 2024 at 02:20 PM ET
Stech
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03/29/24 02:20 PM ET
Ya, but the tournament is a different monster in that it
-- Big12 guy
Mar 29, 2024 at 02:29 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/29/24 02:29 PM ET
I used to think like you’re thinking, but after I heard those two say it, I
-- Stech
Mar 29, 2024 at 02:40 PM ET
Stech
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03/29/24 02:40 PM ET
The tournament should go out to bid. Fox and ESPN - heck,
-- Big12 guy
Mar 29, 2024 at 02:51 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/29/24 02:51 PM ET
If the P2 decide they want to go by themselves, how can others stop it?
-- Stech
Mar 29, 2024 at 03:09 PM ET
Stech
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03/29/24 03:09 PM ET
What, is the BIG going to grow to 30 teams with all of them
-- Big12 guy
Mar 29, 2024 at 03:25 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/29/24 03:25 PM ET
The NFL controls the market w/ 32 teams, they don’t need 60, 48 is my guess
-- Stech
Mar 29, 2024 at 03:55 PM ET
Stech
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03/29/24 03:55 PM ET
Just football, you are right, but we still have college athletic programs. **
-- Big12 guy
Mar 29, 2024 at 04:54 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/29/24 04:54 PM ET
More and more of the other sports are being televised, live sports has Ads
-- Stech
Mar 29, 2024 at 05:01 PM ET
Stech
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03/29/24 05:01 PM ET
You could be right, I could be wrong. I just think the P2 is done except
-- Big12 guy
Mar 29, 2024 at 05:05 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/29/24 05:05 PM ET
They probably aren’t done with expanding and they aren’t done trying to get
-- Stech
Mar 29, 2024 at 05:12 PM ET
Stech
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03/29/24 05:12 PM ET
Yeah, they have a system that is working quite well for them
-- Pylons
Mar 29, 2024 at 09:52 AM ET
Pylons
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03/29/24 09:52 AM ET
I would say getting all the money is a good motive to form a new league.**
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 28, 2024 at 07:49 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/28/24 07:49 PM ET
If Virginia Tech was part of the P2, how many millions would you be willing
-- wwhokie1
Mar 28, 2024 at 03:50 PM ET
wwhokie1
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03/28/24 03:50 PM ET
i am at peace with whatever happens
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Mar 28, 2024 at 03:46 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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03/28/24 03:46 PM ET
We would rarely win 8 games in theSEC**
-- VT ChemE 1986
Mar 28, 2024 at 08:13 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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03/28/24 08:13 PM ET
I am okay with that because VT would still get to cash the SEC checks.**
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 28, 2024 at 08:38 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/28/24 08:38 PM ET
As a fan, do you cheer for checks or wins?**
-- SpeakToDamien
Mar 28, 2024 at 08:51 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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03/28/24 08:51 PM ET
Checks because wins won't pay for new facilities, additional resources,
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 28, 2024 at 08:56 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/28/24 08:56 PM ET
So we'll have the checks to pay for the new facilities etc, all that we
-- wwhokie1
Mar 28, 2024 at 11:05 PM ET
wwhokie1
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03/28/24 11:05 PM ET
I'm saying that VT doesn't have the checks to pay for new facilities or
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 28, 2024 at 11:24 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/28/24 11:24 PM ET
The earlier comment in the thread which you responded to stated that
-- wwhokie1
Mar 28, 2024 at 11:35 PM ET
wwhokie1
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03/28/24 11:35 PM ET
VT remaining in a non-P2 conference definitely won't get it there.
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 29, 2024 at 07:52 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/29/24 07:52 AM ET
I am not in any way suggesting Virginia Tech shouldn't join a P2 conference
-- wwhokie1
Mar 29, 2024 at 12:04 PM ET
wwhokie1
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03/29/24 12:04 PM ET
I don't believe I am one of those Hokie fans with unrealistic expectations.
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 29, 2024 at 07:06 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/29/24 07:06 PM ET
Orioles won the Al east
-- SpeakToDamien
Mar 28, 2024 at 10:30 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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03/28/24 10:30 PM ET
As I noted in another post VT did well in the Big East Football Conference
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 28, 2024 at 10:37 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/28/24 10:37 PM ET
Maybe the P2 is the place then. **
-- Big12 guy
Mar 28, 2024 at 09:15 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/28/24 09:15 PM ET
If you want to be the man, then you got to beat the man. If VT wants to be
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-- VTHokie2000
Mar 28, 2024 at 09:28 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/28/24 09:28 PM ET
When VT went on their run, they were not the richest program out there. The
-- Big12 guy
Mar 28, 2024 at 09:42 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/28/24 09:42 PM ET
VT has gone on a couple of different runs over the years. On those runs
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 28, 2024 at 09:58 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/28/24 09:58 PM ET
Thanks for bringing up those neutral site losses
-- obguthr
Mar 29, 2024 at 07:21 AM ET
obguthr
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03/29/24 07:21 AM ET
Unfortunately, if VT had made some different decisions back then, then it
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 29, 2024 at 07:57 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/29/24 07:57 AM ET
Personally, I would like to see those games play out on the field. VT
-- Big12 guy
Mar 28, 2024 at 03:59 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/28/24 03:59 PM ET
I'm a KU guy, as Nebraska is no longer in the B12, they don't count. **
-- Big12 guy
Mar 28, 2024 at 06:00 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/28/24 06:00 PM ET
Or if a school is willing and has enough money to take a Cal, Stanford,
-- manassashoo
Mar 28, 2024 at 12:59 PM ET
manassashoo
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03/28/24 12:59 PM ET
I've always assumed state politics are important to a "breakaway" P2.
-- Truthahn
Mar 28, 2024 at 12:42 PM ET
Truthahn
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03/28/24 12:42 PM ET
If the P2 decide to treat all their athletes as employees, then that could
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 28, 2024 at 02:21 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/28/24 02:21 PM ET
Agreed. Politics will get involved at some point
-- HokieAl
Mar 28, 2024 at 12:59 PM ET
HokieAl
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03/28/24 12:59 PM ET