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2hhoop3
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I agree with everything......

you said and, in fact, I pondered asking you the exact same question you have now put to me. My opinion, purely a WAG, is that Herbie as an ESPN college football big fish is privy to what ESPN may or may not be willing to do with regard to realignment and CFP expansion. He is also situated uniquely with ties at Ohio State, Clemson and a few other schools to have insight into the thinking of the BIG(aka FOX) and the SEC as well. He is reading the tea leaves and making an educated guess based on the dominoes falling a particular way. The dominoes include the ND/NBC situation, CFP expansion talks and the likely regulatory challenges looming for the NCAA. These things all come to a head no later than 2025/2026 making it likely something gets done before 2024 season, as pushing until after 2024 season tightens the window substantially. I also think that whatever happens pretty much rolls off of ND as the lynchpin.
Posted: 10/29/2023 at 11:46 PM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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ACC’s Jim Phillips reinforces decision to expand, suggests basketball
WBGV • 10/26/23 12:00 PM ET
protection from implosion**
MrBayAreaHokie • 10/30/23 03:01 PM ET
Reduces the likelihood that enough votes can be had to
seekoHoG • 10/27/23 12:03 PM ET
After June 30th correct, before then, it’s still 8 for the majority.**
Stech • 10/28/23 04:12 PM ET
For that to happen it would mean that all 8 would likely have an
seekoHoG • 10/29/23 07:52 PM ET
“If” it were to happen, I don’t think it will dissolve the Conference. IMHO
Stech • 10/29/23 08:36 PM ET
To your point of 8 schools needing a known conference spot
SunDevilHokie • 11/01/23 07:14 PM ET
How do you believe.......
2hhoop3 • 10/29/23 09:48 PM ET
You make good points for the steep hill to climb and I’m not sure it can be
Stech • 10/29/23 11:22 PM ET
I agree with everything...... ◄
2hhoop3 • 10/29/23 11:46 PM ET
My left field guess is that CFP expansion could be a tipping point
HokieAl • 10/30/23 04:34 PM ET
I'd rather see home games than byes. **
Big12 guy • 10/31/23 11:29 AM ET
Unlikely that they would reduce the regular season schedule. There over
33laszlo99 • 10/30/23 06:20 PM ET
It certainly could be.....
2hhoop3 • 10/30/23 05:32 PM ET
It's going to be popcorn-worthy viewing.
33laszlo99 • 10/29/23 10:20 PM ET
I think this is exactly what will play out. FSU and Clemson are not
33laszlo99 • 10/29/23 09:08 PM ET
Dissolving the conference may not be what’s needed.
RJHokie • 10/29/23 08:06 PM ET
I want to make sure.....
2hhoop3 • 10/29/23 10:14 PM ET
Voiding the contract might not be an accurate description.
RJHokie • 10/29/23 10:39 PM ET
I hear what you are saying......
2hhoop3 • 10/29/23 11:04 PM ET
Agree. The discounted value of those rights is basically
RJHokie • 10/29/23 11:15 PM ET
I agree........
2hhoop3 • 10/29/23 11:30 PM ET
Maybe I'm wrong but I thought the GOR was an agreement by each team
seekoHoG • 10/29/23 08:21 PM ET
It is with the ACC, but the 8 could negotiate together and come up with a
Stech • 10/29/23 08:44 PM ET
Wouldnt that be national drama???**
Mercury • 10/28/23 11:44 PM ET
So much has happened already, I think people are almost immune to it, the
Stech • 10/29/23 01:46 PM ET
If student athletes are employees, why would only some of them require
33laszlo99 • 10/30/23 12:14 AM ET
Many student athletes (non-revs) get little or no scholarship at P5 schools
Stech • 10/30/23 12:31 PM ET
I agree that it is unsettling. Some programs will be damaged. But I expect
33laszlo99 • 10/30/23 06:32 PM ET
WSU and Oregon State
134024Hokie • 10/27/23 01:27 PM ET
PODS
134024Hokie • 10/27/23 01:31 PM ET
No need for Pods, but just make sure the Pac-4 play one another each year.
Maroon Baboon • 10/29/23 12:38 PM ET
And SMU is where?**
VTNuke • 10/27/23 04:33 PM ET
Put SMU there just like the NFL the NFC East includes a team from Dallas
anotherdamnyankeehokie • 10/28/23 08:06 PM ET
ND should not be included in a pod they ar obligated to 5 ACC opponents
anotherdamnyankeehokie • 10/28/23 08:03 PM ET
Seems on paper to be a no brainer, but WSU/OSU bring about
Big12 guy • 10/27/23 02:06 PM ET
Translation
Millpoint • 10/26/23 12:23 PM ET
They need 8 to leave, or it’s financial suicide, WADR you need to stop 3 as
Stech • 10/28/23 04:18 PM ET
Time will tell and we shall see
Millpoint • 10/28/23 08:38 PM ET
The GOR is not with ESPN, they need the Conference majority to have any
Stech • 10/28/23 11:05 PM ET
I’m aware of that**
Millpoint • 10/29/23 05:13 AM ET
So why l do you think there is a Mag 7 plus 1 in the ACC?**
Stech • 10/29/23 01:49 PM ET
Pay on the way out, I'm good **
HokiesACC2004 • 10/28/23 02:06 AM ET
3 x120 mil = 360 mil. ACC does Venmo**
Windows NT • 10/26/23 11:23 PM ET
That’s just the down payment, if only 3 leave.**
Stech • 10/28/23 04:20 PM ET
Who says UNC leaving? other than the 7 (which includes VT) have only heard
VTNSC • 10/26/23 01:30 PM ET
exactly and BTW UNC CH with the Chancellor of UNC system must comply
Mercury • 10/26/23 03:42 PM ET
You omitted Wilmington and Pembroke…..
RJHokie • 10/26/23 04:02 PM ET
Do you ever consider......
2hhoop3 • 10/26/23 04:00 PM ET
We do gotta give some credit, his spelling is better! 😂**
Brewing_Hokie • 10/26/23 04:29 PM ET
😂😂 ^POTD**
Brewing_Hokie • 10/26/23 04:04 PM ET
Well they voted against ACC expansion along with FSU and Clemson
Millpoint • 10/26/23 01:53 PM ET
Not really
HokiesACC2004 • 10/28/23 02:07 AM ET
UNC voted against expansion in 2002 to add Miami and VT also.
HOO86 • 10/26/23 06:17 PM ET
Yeah, because the faculty at UNC has so much integrity....fake news
VTNuke • 10/27/23 04:36 PM ET
The big money........
2hhoop3 • 10/26/23 06:47 PM ET
UNC always votes against expansion
mrcaniac • 10/26/23 03:28 PM ET
UNC thinks Michael Jordan is still there
MrBayAreaHokie • 10/30/23 03:02 PM ET
At sometime in the distant future I hope**
VTNSC • 10/26/23 02:39 PM ET
They voted against expansion
RTFC • 10/26/23 02:11 PM ET