BC's competitive model in terms of athletics became obsolete in the 1980s.
They were never even competitive in basketball in the Big East - they were a perennial jobber program for Georgetown, Syracuse, and UConn to beat.
BC is only in the ACC now because people in 2003 thought legacy cable television subscriptions and carriage fees would be a thing forever. In the 03 expansion, the ACC was just reusing the Big East's basketball expansion playbook, which at that point was almost 30 years old, and only applicable to BASKETBALL. The best basketball recruits at that time all came from major metropolitan areas in the northeastern United States. The Big East's entire business model from the late 70's through the early 2000's was to get a basketball program in or around every major city in the NE US and make sure they were always on TV, so they could get the best players in the country committed to programs in the conference. They only veered from that model to add WVU, VT, etc. because they had to appease the schools with football agendas.
That playbook is not applicable on a 1-1 basis to the ACC's business model at the time, which was, "we have what are historically the best, most tradition-rich basketball programs in the country, and that's why recruits want to play in the ACC." ACC football, at the conference level, has pretty much always been a joke. The entire focus of the 03-04 expansion should have been "make ACC football better." The addition of VT and Miami in that regard made sense. Even the addition of Syracuse at that time would have made a tiny bit of sense, as Syracuse football, while clearly on a downslope, was way less of a joke then in the twilight of Donovan McNabb's time there.
The addition of BC made zero sense. BC's addition to the ACC in 04 had everything to do with them being located right outside Boston, and very little, if anything to do with their football program being competitive. They were forced to add VT instead of Syracuse in 03-04 because they did not then understand the concept of people wanting to watch good football on TV - all they understood was BIG CITY = PEOPLE AUTOMATICALLY WATCH THE GAMES, which, as we all now know, has been the exact opposite case for football. College football programs located in major cities with pro teams have the absolute toughest framework in which to operate.
Thread Replies (49)
Wow. You read further than me. I stopped at ACC adding Rice.**
-- Truthahn
Mar 02, 2026 at 05:19 PM ET
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03/02/26 05:19 PM ET
Haha. The European campus is what got my attention.
-- Big12 guy
Mar 02, 2026 at 05:26 PM ET
Big12 guy
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03/02/26 05:26 PM ET
More drivel, hoping idiots like me will read his crapola and actually
-- ancient alien 2018
Feb 27, 2026 at 10:56 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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02/27/26 10:56 PM ET
Please add Temple as well
-- OrlandoHokie
Feb 26, 2026 at 08:04 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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02/26/26 08:04 PM ET
Keep hoping they will come back to the MAC. **
-- Big12 guy
Feb 26, 2026 at 08:16 PM ET
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02/26/26 08:16 PM ET
Adding 2 more private schools and 3 schools lacking any real history in
-- VTHokie2000
Feb 26, 2026 at 06:35 PM ET
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02/26/26 06:35 PM ET
Sometimes, you just have to put stuff out to pasture.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 27, 2026 at 09:57 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/27/26 09:57 AM ET
I'm not sure the ACC deserves the pasture. A trip to the glue factory may
-- VTHokie2000
Feb 27, 2026 at 10:28 AM ET
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02/27/26 10:28 AM ET
Ditto that LOL! What an imagination.**
-- IB4TECH
Feb 26, 2026 at 06:15 PM ET
IB4TECH
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02/26/26 06:15 PM ET
LOL - ZERO chance VT stays in the ACC that article's describing.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 26, 2026 at 10:51 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/26/26 10:51 AM ET
You think like a football fan, many Presidents and BOV think differently.
-- Stech
Feb 26, 2026 at 12:47 PM ET
Stech
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02/26/26 12:47 PM ET
However, VT BOV action adjusts this focus
-- 1947Sunbowl
Feb 26, 2026 at 06:09 PM ET
1947Sunbowl
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02/26/26 06:09 PM ET
They can get "academic money" now. Conference realignment has ZERO to do-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 26, 2026 at 05:04 PM ET
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02/26/26 05:04 PM ET
To you on Academics, not University Presidents who vote, the B1G & AAU
-- Stech
Feb 27, 2026 at 08:07 AM ET
Stech
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02/27/26 08:07 AM ET
You're 1000% patently wrong. That can be your takeaway from this.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 27, 2026 at 09:46 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/27/26 09:46 AM ET
LOL I am wrong it’s about the money, and the University Presdents at B1G &
-- Stech
Feb 27, 2026 at 03:36 PM ET
Stech
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02/27/26 03:36 PM ET
"Academic Alliances" don't have anything to do with media money 4 football.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 27, 2026 at 04:08 PM ET
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02/27/26 04:08 PM ET
I don’t believe for one second you believe that, you’re just flaming now.👋**
-- Stech
Feb 27, 2026 at 05:32 PM ET
Stech
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02/27/26 05:32 PM ET
I'm sorry you don't believe it. If you did-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:51 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/02/26 10:51 AM ET
Another flame, you just can't stop can you?**
-- Stech
Mar 02, 2026 at 01:41 PM ET
Stech
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03/02/26 01:41 PM ET
When talking about a Switzerland satellite campus in the context of
-- Maroon Baboon
Feb 26, 2026 at 11:59 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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02/26/26 11:59 AM ET
while true about VT & others having overseas campus, go check & you'll
-- anotherdamnyankeehokie
Feb 26, 2026 at 06:36 AM ET
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02/26/26 06:36 AM ET
Yeah I saw it. It reads like an AI generated fantasy article.**
-- RandomAsianGuy
Feb 25, 2026 at 10:51 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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02/25/26 10:51 PM ET
100% this was written by an AI chat bot. **
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 26, 2026 at 11:04 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/26/26 11:04 AM ET
Maybe written by AI, but I think it's more
-- Big12 guy
Feb 26, 2026 at 11:18 AM ET
Big12 guy
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02/26/26 11:18 AM ET
He probably heard something about VC
-- RandomAsianGuy
Feb 26, 2026 at 12:39 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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02/26/26 12:39 PM ET
Interesting on the Switzerland campus. Link enclosed
-- VintonHokies
Feb 25, 2026 at 03:20 PM ET
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02/25/26 03:20 PM ET
Can't wait to see a top 25 ACC match up played at VT's Swiss Facilities:
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 26, 2026 at 11:07 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/26/26 11:07 AM ET
Thanks for the link. damn, college
-- Big12 guy
Feb 25, 2026 at 03:27 PM ET
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02/25/26 03:27 PM ET
That conference would be garbage. I'd rather Tech give up sports entirely**
-- RVAHokie05
Feb 25, 2026 at 03:14 PM ET
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02/25/26 03:14 PM ET
I think I'd rather join the BigXII TBH.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Feb 25, 2026 at 06:36 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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02/25/26 06:36 PM ET
Ditto. I'd much rather be in the B12 than in that other slapdashery.**
-- RVAHokie05
Feb 26, 2026 at 07:39 AM ET
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02/26/26 07:39 AM ET
Question: if you were Duke,
-- Big12 guy
Feb 25, 2026 at 07:47 PM ET
Big12 guy
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02/25/26 07:47 PM ET
If I was Duke's AD, then I would be calling the Big East and looking to
-- VTHokie2000
Feb 26, 2026 at 06:42 PM ET
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02/26/26 06:42 PM ET
Be careful in just looking at capacity of stadiums. While
-- Big12 guy
Feb 26, 2026 at 08:16 PM ET
Big12 guy
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02/26/26 08:16 PM ET
LOL, Duke's football stadium is a dump, and empty on game days.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:54 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/02/26 10:54 AM ET
IF USF, Colorado State, SDSU, and
-- Big12 guy
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:06 AM ET
Big12 guy
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03/02/26 11:06 AM ET
I think the donor class at Duke U is entirely worried about one sport-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:18 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/02/26 11:18 AM ET
I compare Duke's football and their fan
-- Big12 guy
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:25 AM ET
Big12 guy
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03/02/26 11:25 AM ET
I think the folks running Duke understand what the future holds for them-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:35 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/02/26 11:35 AM ET
I have been to Wallace Wade Stadium several times for games because my
-- VTHokie2000
Feb 27, 2026 at 08:03 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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02/27/26 08:03 AM ET
You should stop including BC in this calculus. They should be FCS-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 26, 2026 at 11:12 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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02/26/26 11:12 AM ET
BC is a Big East basketball school with a football team. I
-- Big12 guy
Feb 26, 2026 at 11:24 AM ET
Big12 guy
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02/26/26 11:24 AM ET
BC's competitive model in terms of athletics became obsolete in the 1980s.
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-- Baltimore_Hokie
Feb 26, 2026 at 05:23 PM ET
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02/26/26 05:23 PM ET
To me, the ACC (and Big East) made a big mistake by not doing a total
-- Maroon Baboon
Feb 25, 2026 at 11:11 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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02/25/26 11:11 PM ET
Interesting. NCSU isn't listed as bolting or staying. Just disappear?**
-- VTBoar
Feb 25, 2026 at 03:04 PM ET
VTBoar
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02/25/26 03:04 PM ET
Right? I think the author makes a few assumptions,
-- Big12 guy
Feb 25, 2026 at 03:26 PM ET
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02/25/26 03:26 PM ET