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One must not forget that the PACN was smack dab in the middle of those

negotiations. The PAC owned 100% of the PACN, and it wasn't doing so well. The projections of the PACN were way out of whack with the reality. From where I'm sitting, neither ESPN or FOX wanted anything to do with that cluster mess. Dr. eat Crow at ASU was not only the one that pegged their value at $50M, he is also the one that wanted to go with Apples offer, which was a terrible offer. This was because they really thought they would score big with their network. How much that network was involved in the negotiations I'll probably never know. it didn't get much press though, and the network in now defunct. Sometimes I wonder if it was arrogance, or just bad business knowledge that led to their demise. Their contract up to USCLA departing was about $25M a year if my memory is correct. It is interesting to me $25M is what the B12 gets from ESPN. I also wonder if it was Yormark that cut in line, or was it ESPN picking up the phone, and asking the B12 if they wanted the money. No matter how it happened, the business schools at those Universities should offer a class on how not to negotiate.
Posted: 08/21/2024 at 03:09 PM ET
(In response to this post by WarHog38)

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Don’t shoot th messenger, CBS’s Dennis Dodd,ESPN won’t renew ACC contract n
Stech • 08/20/24 01:33 PM ET
I just dont see ESPN dropping the ACCN. It is profitable, generates
HboroughHokie • 08/20/24 06:09 PM ET
They don’t have to drop it. They can just start a brand new contract
HokieAl • 08/20/24 06:42 PM ET
I don’t either, cuz Fox or Peacock or CBS will be glad to grab it…**
ombandit • 08/20/24 06:11 PM ET
Nobody else can just "grab" the ACCN if ESPN declines to extend the r'ship-
Baltimore_Hokie • 08/21/24 09:23 AM ET
Wonder if Philips has started looking around for competitive bids?**
VT ChemE 1986 • 08/20/24 06:04 PM ET
It's not that bold a prediction. The fact it isn't already extended
HokieAl • 08/20/24 03:34 PM ET
Yes, the GOR has a 2036 date for a very specific reason
VTCALS72 • 08/21/24 07:39 AM ET
There is no shadowy intrigue around either of the items you raise here-
Baltimore_Hokie • 08/21/24 03:55 PM ET
I don't think it's a re-negotiation. It's an option to extend
SpeakToDamien • 08/20/24 05:31 PM ET
The only reason these reporters can continue to make these predictions is
WBGV • 08/20/24 04:08 PM ET
actually I think we are already getting a preview of how the ACC survives
HokieAl • 08/20/24 05:05 PM ET
GOR likely is still enforceable regardless
SpeakToDamien • 08/20/24 03:23 PM ET
NO GOR Without ESPN as the Media Provider
WarHog38 • 08/20/24 06:14 PM ET
The better question is (inside)
El Paso Hokie • 08/20/24 11:41 PM ET
You might be right, but there is no conclusive evidence either way.**
Stech • 08/20/24 07:03 PM ET
Doesn't the conference own all TV rights regardless of the carrier?
Hokester • 08/20/24 03:34 PM ET
It's the best argument FSU has imo
SpeakToDamien • 08/20/24 04:16 PM ET
The GOR says "expressly set forth in the ESPN Agreement”
HokieAl • 08/20/24 03:38 PM ET
Seems like people that make predictions at the beginning of the new
VintonHokies • 08/20/24 03:01 PM ET
Don't waste your time. Clickbait from Dennis Dud.**
ancient alien 2018 • 08/20/24 08:26 PM ET
You Do Have to Remember Josh Pate
WarHog38 • 08/20/24 02:43 PM ET
I remember him, and I don’t know if he knows anything, but CBS Sports is
Stech • 08/20/24 04:07 PM ET
You mean all the same.......
2hhoop3 • 08/20/24 02:53 PM ET
i Think You are Throwing YouTube Nobodies in With MSM Sports Big Wigs
WarHog38 • 08/20/24 05:46 PM ET
The PAC12 didn't lose a TV contract mid-stride, it ended 2 months ago...
BROman Hokie • 08/21/24 10:19 AM ET
Heard the PAC Over Priced Themselves Angle Before
WarHog38 • 08/21/24 02:36 PM ET
One must not forget that the PACN was smack dab in the middle of those ◄
Big12 guy • 08/21/24 03:09 PM ET
Kudos to you......
2hhoop3 • 08/20/24 06:48 PM ET
Mid Stride Considering How the B!G & SEC Get Their TV Contract Renewals**
WarHog38 • 08/20/24 07:03 PM ET
You will have to......
2hhoop3 • 08/20/24 07:28 PM ET
I Guess You First Would Need Mid Stride Better Defined
WarHog38 • 08/20/24 09:11 PM ET
Thanks for explanation.......
2hhoop3 • 08/20/24 09:26 PM ET
Click bait.**
RJHokie • 08/20/24 01:40 PM ET
Probably but I have to believe both the ACC and ESPN would want to
Femoyer Hokie • 08/20/24 02:14 PM ET
I don't think either are obligated to announce anything about it.
HOO86 • 08/20/24 05:09 PM ET
Maybe ESPN is waiting to see how the 12 team playoff shakes out...**
Two4VT • 08/20/24 02:49 PM ET
The contract extension not being announced is not speculation. It's reality**
Big12 guy • 08/20/24 02:18 PM ET
Yep and......
2hhoop3 • 08/20/24 01:51 PM ET
I don't want to get into 25 back-and-forth threads with you, but-
Baltimore_Hokie • 08/20/24 02:51 PM ET
I thought you......
2hhoop3 • 08/20/24 02:56 PM ET
Maybe, but it’s CBS Sports, not a a basement podcaster.**
Stech • 08/20/24 01:42 PM ET
Pac fans jumped all over Dodds through the whole Pac fiasco. They called
HouClone • 08/20/24 02:21 PM ET
Interesting.**
Stech • 08/20/24 04:00 PM ET
Different scenario there.
RJHokie • 08/20/24 02:49 PM ET
Doesn’t matter.
RJHokie • 08/20/24 01:50 PM ET
Yes I read the others, they were guessing on the season outcome, very
Stech • 08/20/24 04:11 PM ET
Agree, but you have to realize this is all speculation and is mostly all
RJHokie • 08/20/24 04:19 PM ET