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INSIDE99

Not the same

as attorneys having full access using it to file a lawsuit as evident by Clemson's new motion. They claim the contract says their rights leave with them. Interesting at best.
Posted: 06/01/2024 at 05:15 PM ET
(In response to this post by VTCALS72)

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It's happening - the ACC summer of crazy
INSIDE99 • 05/30/24 03:25 PM ET
Connecting dots in North Carolina
INSIDE99 • 06/04/24 01:49 PM ET
Wow, that last line is a doozy!!!
Stech • 06/04/24 01:58 PM ET
Did you look......
2hhoop3 • 06/04/24 11:51 PM ET
Could be the case, but he seems to be implying a whole lot more, did you
Stech • 06/05/24 07:25 AM ET
rotflmao!!!! **
ancient alien 2018 • 05/31/24 06:19 PM ET
You lost me at ‘’It's in everyone's best interest to settle this”**
MrBayAreaHokie • 05/31/24 12:09 AM ET
It's his/her way of saying "I don't know squat but I have people swallowing
ancient alien 2018 • 05/31/24 06:21 PM ET
Yep, if the SEC is essentially lusting for UNC and UVA
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 08:16 AM ET
He lost me at "Lambert". Total fraud.
Maroon Baboon • 05/31/24 01:17 AM ET
Agreed
INSIDE99 • 05/31/24 01:34 AM ET
IF this plays out as you have speculated, here is potential impact
HokieAl • 05/30/24 10:46 PM ET
Two problems I notice. First, if the rights are only worth 70 how are they
wwhokie1 • 05/30/24 11:04 PM ET
I think how the ACC would collect is the great unknown.
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 08:39 AM ET
Some responses
HokieAl • 05/30/24 11:19 PM ET
I think you are overly optimistic. I am not convinced the scenario with
wwhokie1 • 05/30/24 11:48 PM ET
That last paragraph is the real key
HokieAl • 05/31/24 12:55 PM ET
Always a good discussion. And regarding what is in the contract, lawyers
wwhokie1 • 05/31/24 01:33 PM ET
Your scenario hinges.......
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 11:34 PM ET
The $64,000 question in your post on who actually owns the rights,
Big12 guy • 05/31/24 09:07 AM ET
Sure, there are layers of assumptions in this
HokieAl • 05/30/24 11:47 PM ET
Courts are involved. There are contracts
SpeakToDamien • 05/30/24 10:45 PM ET
You don't believe settlements override a courtroom?
INSIDE99 • 05/30/24 11:50 PM ET
Of course. But the ACC has zero motivation to settle
SpeakToDamien • 05/31/24 12:24 AM ET
Only one school has a full unredacted copy of the ESPN contract
INSIDE99 • 06/01/24 01:03 PM ET
but anyone in the conference who wanted to read it could go to Charlotte
VTCALS72 • 06/01/24 03:56 PM ET
Not the same ◄
INSIDE99 • 06/01/24 05:15 PM ET
Except Clemson is not a party to the contract so that discussion
VTCALS72 • 06/01/24 07:00 PM ET
ACC is focused on long term survival first, they do that by ESPN extending
Stech • 05/31/24 11:21 AM ET
I don't know how much say ESPN has in all of this, but...
BUGGZY • 05/30/24 10:00 PM ET
Absolutely, 100% spot on!! ( Thanks Mr. Siegel)!!!**
ancient alien 2018 • 05/31/24 06:34 PM ET
Been Hearing the Next Month is Going to Be Wild a Lot
WarHog38 • 05/30/24 07:53 PM ET
It has been more than 50 years.......
2hhoop3 • 05/31/24 12:17 PM ET
A Lot of That 1St Fiddle Playing was due to Bear Bryant & Nick Saban
WarHog38 • 05/31/24 09:59 PM ET
I do not disagree with......
2hhoop3 • 05/31/24 10:48 PM ET
Here is an opinion
VTCALS72 • 05/30/24 08:58 PM ET
One key point to all of this that must be noted
CobbCountyHokie • 05/31/24 09:00 AM ET
The FOX angle is why
Victor Tango • 05/31/24 10:13 AM ET
I agree completely and, I read that Virginia makes up 48%
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 09:13 AM ET
That's why I think VT would be more desirable to the Big Ten than the SEC
hokieZ71 • 05/31/24 06:20 AM ET
The #1 issue with Vt to the B10 is Maryland
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 08:00 AM ET
UMD is just not a football school. There is absolutely zero game
Sportn • 05/31/24 09:24 PM ET
Maybe to the UMD AD but not to their fan base
Vippie1 • 05/31/24 10:13 AM ET
Big to MD, "we lifted you out and gave you the DMV.
VTCALS72 • 06/01/24 01:12 PM ET
Maryland loves it when VT comes to College Park and fills 70% of the seats
VPIGUY • 05/31/24 04:43 PM ET
You forgot the Bruins, but your point stands, it’s a Pro Sports town, Fox
Stech • 05/30/24 10:06 PM ET
But ESPN HAS to allow that to happen.
hokieZ71 • 05/31/24 07:50 AM ET
Would do it because they already own Florida & South Carolina, new states
Stech • 05/31/24 08:22 AM ET
I agree with this with both the Big 10, and the SEC. I have expressed
Big12 guy • 05/30/24 09:26 PM ET
Big 10 national brand is an oxymoron in that context
INSIDE99 • 05/31/24 12:24 AM ET
I'll expand on this looking backwards...
BUGGZY • 05/30/24 09:39 PM ET
Texas Was the Big 12 and Before That Was the SWC
WarHog38 • 05/30/24 11:02 PM ET
I think the bigger conferences........
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 10:30 PM ET
not sure that works...
BUGGZY • 05/30/24 10:36 PM ET
Might not work.......
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 10:45 PM ET
Yep, Texass is a cancer that will cause a lot of issues.
RJHokie • 05/30/24 09:43 PM ET
Name a conference they haven't destroyed. **
Big12 guy • 05/30/24 09:46 PM ET
None…..**
RJHokie • 05/30/24 09:47 PM ET
Nope.**
33laszlo99 • 05/30/24 06:37 PM ET
Would ESPN give up UNC and UVA to the Big to get FSU and Clemson?**
VTCALS72 • 05/30/24 06:25 PM ET
I would, but I would prefer to keep them all since I already have them.**
wwhokie1 • 05/30/24 10:13 PM ET
i Think This is a Good Question
WarHog38 • 05/30/24 09:42 PM ET
Sankey said recently he wants to improve basketball in the SEC, the past is
Stech • 05/30/24 10:19 PM ET
fsu "leaving with or w/o settlement"...which conference buys them w/o GOR?
VT757to276 • 05/30/24 04:13 PM ET
No one is joining another conference without their media rights
INSIDE99 • 05/31/24 12:34 AM ET
Excellent stuff. A couple of questions. 1. What happens to ND?
TDVick • 05/30/24 04:02 PM ET
UNC does not want VT as a competitor
VTCALS72 • 05/30/24 05:57 PM ET
I generally agree, but how much does UNC want UVA to go with them? One
TDVick • 05/31/24 07:56 AM ET
And I still disagree that 2011 was anywhere near like the possibility
VTCALS72 • 05/31/24 08:11 AM ET
I think he’s saying UVA and VT to SEC, with UNC and NCSU, you get 2 🏈/🏀
Stech • 05/30/24 04:45 PM ET
Tech and State aren't chicken feed in BB either
obguthr • 05/31/24 09:41 AM ET
For a conference that has tried to avoid adding schools in states
wwhokie1 • 05/30/24 05:51 PM ET
The state of South Carolina is about 1/2 the size of Va & NC, also by doing
Stech • 05/30/24 07:31 PM ET
Its not about the size of the state but the size of the TV viewing audience
wwhokie1 • 05/30/24 10:34 PM ET
It’s about growth/new viewers, in both basketball and football, FSU & Clem-
Stech • 05/30/24 10:51 PM ET
4 schools in 2 states might bring in more growth, but if it does it comes
wwhokie1 • 05/30/24 11:31 PM ET
“If” 4 go from two states, I expect a ramp up on payment, but they’re ACC $
Stech • 05/31/24 12:05 AM ET
I am not saying it is.........
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 05:58 PM ET
How else should someone interpret.......
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 03:48 PM ET
No change
INSIDE99 • 05/31/24 01:01 AM ET
Not true.....
2hhoop3 • 05/31/24 10:05 AM ET
Did he piss you off ??
DrHokie • 05/30/24 10:20 PM ET
Read my previous response.......
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 10:32 PM ET
I confused, are you saying FSU and Clemson to the B1G and ND to follow? Or
Stech • 05/30/24 03:47 PM ET
Interesting is not the word I’d use.
Marooned • 05/30/24 03:42 PM ET
Man, that was a post and a half.
goldendomer • 05/30/24 03:41 PM ET
Yes, but very informative if true, and some like TerryD may refute it, but
Stech • 05/30/24 03:52 PM ET
I think that if the ACC implodes....
TerryD • 05/30/24 09:16 PM ET
The Irish
INSIDE99 • 05/31/24 01:18 AM ET
That’s certainly a possibility, thanks for letting us know what you think.**
Stech • 05/30/24 09:53 PM ET
I think it was informative........
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 05:38 PM ET
I fully understand your caution, time will tell, but it is plausible IMHO.**
Stech • 05/30/24 07:27 PM ET
I was not really trying........
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 08:22 PM ET
I am pretty sure there is no horse trading among the conferences and the
33laszlo99 • 05/30/24 09:39 PM ET
There is a mega amount of horse trading among the networks
INSIDE99 • 05/31/24 01:37 AM ET
With one exception everything you list here as horse trading is simple
33laszlo99 • 05/31/24 07:23 AM ET
ESPN is getting something out of FSU/Clemson leaving, period.
INSIDE99 • 05/31/24 11:33 PM ET
If ESPN is in control as much as you suggest; they'll simply
daveinop • 06/01/24 11:39 AM ET
You might want to reconsider.......
2hhoop3 • 05/30/24 10:04 PM ET