I've referred to it as a "clearance rack" hire
We decided that we couldn't (or shouldn't) try to shop at Yves Saint Laurent so we opted for the back row of Old Navy instead. What we purchased felt okay for a bit, but ultimately it shrunk and wore thin. Now we're facing a harsh winter and we're badly exposed.
You make very valid points with your second paragraph and I agree with a lot of what you have to say. I joked elsewhere that we might consider the example of the University of Chicago. They were a founding member of the Big 10 and produced the first Heisman winner. But they ultimately made a decision to abandon a commitment to big-time athletics in 1946. Now they are highly regarded from an academic perspective and seem perfectly happy competing in sports at the Division III level. Not saying we go to quite that level, but it's possible that somebody could figure out a way to be something similar in the 21st century.
Whatever happens, I'm all in for the long haul. I have been -- and will continue to be -- a Hokie for all of my life.
Thread Replies (71)
Pry and conference realignment
-- Maroon Baboon
Sep 15, 2025 at 11:15 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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09/15/25 11:15 AM ET
Whit went Temu on the Pry hire**
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Sep 18, 2025 at 12:50 AM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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09/18/25 12:50 AM ET
I was hoping that we were getting a younger Bud Foster with Pry.
-- Maroon Baboon
Sep 17, 2025 at 09:21 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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09/17/25 09:21 PM ET
This hire is more about our intent to play at the highest level...
-- Hokie Fiji
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:13 PM ET
Hokie Fiji
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09/16/25 08:13 PM ET
Be careful with this hire. KU wanted to get to the
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:36 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 08:36 PM ET
KU has tried to make a splash each time
-- Hokie Fiji
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:54 PM ET
Hokie Fiji
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09/16/25 08:54 PM ET
How "affordable" does the Pry hire feel now?
-- MP4VT2004
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:42 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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09/16/25 09:42 PM ET
This is where I strongly believe that VT has to be different
-- HokieAl
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:16 AM ET
HokieAl
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09/17/25 10:16 AM ET
How about A.I. coaches and spend all the money on players? TIC**
-- MP4VT2004
Sep 17, 2025 at 11:42 AM ET
MP4VT2004
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09/17/25 11:42 AM ET
I wonder if the NCAA would allow an AI coach
-- HokieAl
Sep 17, 2025 at 12:06 PM ET
HokieAl
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09/17/25 12:06 PM ET
It would be a lot easier to buy out the contract, that is for sure. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 17, 2025 at 12:38 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/17/25 12:38 PM ET
"Sorry, WALL-E...we are going to pull the plug."**
-- MP4VT2004
Sep 17, 2025 at 05:43 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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09/17/25 05:43 PM ET
We definitely would need a plug. If the AI needs wifi in Lane, we're SOL**
-- HokieAl
Sep 17, 2025 at 06:15 PM ET
HokieAl
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09/17/25 06:15 PM ET
I've referred to it as a "clearance rack" hire
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-- Hokie Fiji
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:58 PM ET
Hokie Fiji
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09/16/25 09:58 PM ET
I understand the money thing. A proven coach that has
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:01 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 09:01 PM ET
Biggest issue is that the game has changed fundamentally
-- Hokie Fiji
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:21 PM ET
Hokie Fiji
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09/16/25 09:21 PM ET
Great response, and very interesting. I of course,
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:27 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 09:27 PM ET
BTW, I think Lawrence is a really neat college town
-- Hokie Fiji
Sep 16, 2025 at 10:12 PM ET
Hokie Fiji
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09/16/25 10:12 PM ET
We still haven't really committed to trying to play at an elite level IMO
-- Hokie Fiji
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:48 PM ET
Hokie Fiji
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09/16/25 09:48 PM ET
Get ready to speak Big 12, buddy. That's where this train is heading.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 16, 2025 at 03:30 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/16/25 03:30 PM ET
The ACC has a channel the B12 doesn't, ESPN owns 1/2 that channel, if teams
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:06 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 08:06 PM ET
Do you think Disney is going to keep supporting the ACCN as a product-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:14 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/17/25 10:14 AM ET
I would guess ESPN would rather wind down the ACC network and
-- thebluelot
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:43 PM ET
thebluelot
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09/16/25 08:43 PM ET
On one hand, ESPN and the schools spent a lot of time and money
-- HouClone
Sep 17, 2025 at 01:14 PM ET
HouClone
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09/17/25 01:14 PM ET
Then you have the PACN. That conference really thought
-- Big12 guy
Sep 17, 2025 at 01:32 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/17/25 01:32 PM ET
It's very profitable, and they have sunk cost into building the channel. If
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:51 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 08:51 PM ET
I don't foresee a Big12 channel
-- thebluelot
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:56 PM ET
thebluelot
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09/16/25 08:56 PM ET
The only conference channel that gets posted
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:05 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 09:05 PM ET
I don't either, which is why I think even with the ACC losing teams they
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:05 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 09:05 PM ET
You're absolutely bonkers if you think VT would be better situated in-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:20 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/17/25 10:20 AM ET
Please stop calling people that don’t agree with you bonkers, trying to
-- Stech
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:44 AM ET
Stech
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09/17/25 10:44 AM ET
If I've gravely offended you by using the word "bonkers," then I apologize.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:47 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/17/25 10:47 AM ET
I agree with almost everything you said
-- thebluelot
Sep 16, 2025 at 10:06 PM ET
thebluelot
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09/16/25 10:06 PM ET
This is the correct take. Nobody with a reasonable take thinks the ACC is-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:22 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/17/25 10:22 AM ET
yet the B12 consistently gets better ratings, and that is
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:37 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 08:37 PM ET
Best 1st week ratings ever had FSU, Miami, Clemson, VT & UNC for a 1/4 :-)
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:42 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 08:42 PM ET
FSU and Clemson were playing SEC teams. Miami was playing ND.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:29 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/17/25 10:29 AM ET
Big12 had 3 million more viewers last year
-- thebluelot
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:52 PM ET
thebluelot
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09/16/25 08:52 PM ET
If that's true, 1 yr is not a good measuring stick, give me at least 5 yrs
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:56 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 08:56 PM ET
Keep in mind that it was the B12's first year with their schools.
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:17 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 09:17 PM ET
Still one year is not convincing either.**
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:35 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 09:35 PM ET
Well, this will be year two. Should be interesting. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:38 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 09:38 PM ET
Don't disagree with your dissent or challenge
-- thebluelot
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:06 PM ET
thebluelot
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09/16/25 09:06 PM ET
I posted last year numbers on this board that
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:44 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 08:44 PM ET
No proof, just have to trust you right? :-)**
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:50 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 08:50 PM ET
ya, as I have given you no reason not too. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:52 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 08:52 PM ET
And no reason to either. I gave you real numbers from 2 weeks ago and you
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:53 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 08:53 PM ET
Not trying to sway you one way or the other. I just
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:55 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 08:55 PM ET
Fine, I just don't buy it without 3-5 years evidence on ratings, one year
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 08:59 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 08:59 PM ET
Fair enough, as Colorado got stupid ratings. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:02 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/16/25 09:02 PM ET
Ahem, reminder that I have 10 years of tv data for every school
-- HokieAl
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:24 AM ET
HokieAl
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09/17/25 10:24 AM ET
I would expect the Hokies to pursue Shane Beamer.
-- HOO86
Sep 15, 2025 at 08:33 PM ET
HOO86
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09/15/25 08:33 PM ET
courtesy call perhaps but unlikely, imo
-- daveinop
Sep 16, 2025 at 06:04 PM ET
daveinop
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09/16/25 06:04 PM ET
Shane basically said, there is one Beamer in Blacksburg, & he has a statue
-- Stech
Sep 16, 2025 at 07:50 PM ET
Stech
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09/16/25 07:50 PM ET
I don't know about being miserable
-- HokiesACC2004
Sep 17, 2025 at 05:37 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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09/17/25 05:37 AM ET
It’s really hard to live in a HOF shadow and be constantly compared, he
-- Stech
Sep 17, 2025 at 07:09 AM ET
Stech
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09/17/25 07:09 AM ET
Shane Beamer will never be the HFC at VT. 0% chance. Never. In sharpie.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 16, 2025 at 03:32 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/16/25 03:32 PM ET
Nah, he doesn't want to follow his father.
-- mancunian
Sep 16, 2025 at 12:19 PM ET
mancunian
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09/16/25 12:19 PM ET
I doubt he would have any interest at all.**
-- reestuart
Sep 16, 2025 at 10:21 AM ET
reestuart
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09/16/25 10:21 AM ET
I expect UVA will hire Mike Young**
-- RiverVT
Sep 16, 2025 at 09:38 AM ET
RiverVT
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09/16/25 09:38 AM ET
That would be horrible for us.
-- HokieAl
Sep 15, 2025 at 09:13 PM ET
HokieAl
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09/15/25 09:13 PM ET
"So VT needs better than a middle of the pack SEC coach"
-- Maroon Baboon
Sep 16, 2025 at 01:11 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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09/16/25 01:11 AM ET
So much depends on new AD, lots of speculation, but I think Shane prefers
-- Stech
Sep 15, 2025 at 08:41 PM ET
Stech
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09/15/25 08:41 PM ET
agreed. We have fallen and we can't get up**
-- VT ChemE 1986
Sep 15, 2025 at 01:15 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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09/15/25 01:15 PM ET
Yep. We picked the worst possible time to fall on our face
-- HokieAl
Sep 15, 2025 at 12:54 PM ET
HokieAl
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09/15/25 12:54 PM ET
This season was critical IMO to position VT for a potential P2 embrace.
-- Maroon Unit
Sep 15, 2025 at 03:46 PM ET
Maroon Unit
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09/15/25 03:46 PM ET
I think we still have a narrow window of opportunity
-- HokieAl
Sep 15, 2025 at 05:42 PM ET
HokieAl
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09/15/25 05:42 PM ET
No clue. Renovate is probably the way to go
-- HokieAl
Sep 17, 2025 at 10:28 AM ET
HokieAl
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09/17/25 10:28 AM ET
I think you nailed the top 3. It’s a tall order.**
-- Femoyer Hokie
Sep 15, 2025 at 05:57 PM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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09/15/25 05:57 PM ET