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VTHokie2000
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VTHokie2000

I do think there is a good possibility that the ACC loses someone around

2030 or 2031. The move itself may not actually turn out to be the ACC's version of Yoko Ono and break the band up. However, it could get ESPN to reconsider if it wants to continue paying the going rate until 2036 even though the ACC may be minus some sort of combination of Clemson, FSU, UNC, maybe Miami, maybe Duke (for basketball), etc. for the remainder of the contract. If ESPN proposes to reduce the payout for the remainder of the contract, then does the remaining members accept it or decide maybe it is time for a change in scenery? Even if the ACC decides to poach the Big XII, I'm not sure there is any current Big XII member that has equal value to any of the potential schools the ACC could lose in the future. Regardless of how that plays out, it would appear that the ACC (as we know it today) will likely not exist after June 30, 2036 when the current GOR expires. If it does exist, then it will likely either have a shorter GOR or a new dance partner based on the lessons the school are learning now being locked in a long-term GOR while the college athletic landscape around them is constantly changing. ** Edited by VTHokie2000 at 7/31/2025, 2:01:31 PM
Posted: 07/31/2025 at 01:03 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Saw this an another board:
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 11:05 AM ET
must be a slow day**
Windows NT • 07/31/25 11:18 PM ET
If the ACC blows up, there will be $100s of millions in exit fees
Sunsetunderground • 07/31/25 04:35 PM ET
If the ACC "blows up" there will be no exit fees if there is no longer an
ancient alien 2018 • 08/02/25 08:47 PM ET
If 4 teams left at any time from now through 2030, I’ve calculated the $$
hokieZ71 • 08/01/25 06:50 AM ET
As Stech noted in a post below "Expect the unexpected." Based on that
VTHokie2000 • 08/01/25 10:04 AM ET
I think the reason the ACC made the exit fees lower was because ESPN…
hokieZ71 • 08/01/25 02:42 PM ET
Is there another look in before the contract
Big12 guy • 08/02/25 08:57 AM ET
So if the ACC lost 4 schools (example purposes only) and they were the
VTHokie2000 • 08/01/25 02:48 PM ET
ESPN paid up to the Big 12 to let Texas and OU leave one year early.
hokieZ71 • 08/01/25 05:42 PM ET
If it pencils out, watch out. **
Big12 guy • 08/01/25 10:26 AM ET
Yep, but in 2036, it makes sense to get out.**
PennaHokie • 07/31/25 11:42 PM ET
It was the name that got my attention, not the
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 07:33 PM ET
Oh what might have been if the Eastern Independents had formed a conference
VTHokie2000 • 08/01/25 09:57 AM ET
ESPN’s ACC Network could easily save what’s left of the ACC, raid instead
Stech • 07/31/25 04:08 PM ET
if leagues get that big, then they need divisions for ea sport
3TechFanz • 08/01/25 11:36 AM ET
I agree especially for Olympic Sports, 🏈 plays 6 away games mostly on Sat.
Stech • 08/01/25 12:26 PM ET
No doubt. This could still go either way. **
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 07:33 PM ET
Expect the unexpected, House v NCAA gets settled & immediately challenged
Stech • 07/31/25 11:31 PM ET
Adding Pitt probably makes more sense than Syracuse. **
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 11:49 AM ET
Typo, meant to include them. **
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 12:05 PM ET
Ah okay. If the Big XII is adding 5 more members, then was a 6th member
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 12:11 PM ET
NCSU if the BigXII is lucky enough
thebluelot • 07/31/25 03:01 PM ET
I get the concerns about Pitt and Syracuse. I don't have a problem adding
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 03:45 PM ET
One can hope. While I still think the ACC will stick together,
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 12:44 PM ET
I do think there is a good possibility that the ACC loses someone around ◄
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 01:03 PM ET
IMHO, ESPN already calculated all the scenarios including what they
VTCALS72 • 07/31/25 02:55 PM ET
Maybe so, but ESPN may have the right to change its mind down the road too
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 03:37 PM ET
If this happens I would think sooner than 2030
thebluelot • 07/31/25 02:28 PM ET
I believe the way Clemson and FSU settled their lawsuits, it painted the
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 02:46 PM ET
I thought the settlement clarified that
thebluelot • 07/31/25 02:56 PM ET
I thought the settlement spelled out how much it would cost to just exit
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 03:38 PM ET
One fee, the exit fee. Pretty sure. **
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 07:36 PM ET
You are probably right. Although it wouldn't shock me if a breakdown was
VTHokie2000 • 08/01/25 10:17 AM ET
Currently, with ND, FSU, and Clemson, the ACC is in
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 01:17 PM ET
I agree with you that the ACC has too many smaller members holding back the
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 01:28 PM ET
Academics, then basketball seemed to be the consideration. lets
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 02:15 PM ET
The academics defense somewhat went out the window with the bath water when
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 02:22 PM ET
There is no better or worse athletics conference with respect to
Pylons • 07/31/25 05:52 PM ET
Except academic conferences already exist though. They are just not
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 06:15 PM ET
Those aren't anything like what you seem to be proposing.
Pylons • 07/31/25 06:24 PM ET
If you are familiar with the Eastern College Athletic Conference (ECAC),
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 08:21 PM ET
Tea prices going way up in China too!**
Pylons • 07/31/25 09:09 PM ET
OK, what was it then that kept the ACC from
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 02:28 PM ET
What you just posted adds to my belief that the B12 exist today because the
VTCALS72 • 07/31/25 03:01 PM ET
Sorry, "Big Media" are not the ones pulling the
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 03:10 PM ET
Oh, I don't believe there is a grand conspiracy, I just think big time
VTCALS72 • 07/31/25 03:14 PM ET
The conferences being able to negotiate and their
Big12 guy • 07/31/25 03:24 PM ET
Academic snobbery because the ACC believes it is another Ivy League.
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 02:36 PM ET
You can't separate things that aren't already together.
Pylons • 07/31/25 05:55 PM ET
I still believe the ACC was so hot for Cuse and BC was to provide those
VTCALS72 • 07/31/25 03:06 PM ET
Even if that was the reason, it still showed that the ACC was stubbornly
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 03:40 PM ET
Maybe more correctly, UNCV and Duke were driving the bus
VTCALS72 • 07/31/25 04:21 PM ET
If VT had not gotten in the ACC when it did, then I am not convinced that
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/25 05:46 PM ET