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Maybe a different perspective. Remember that FSU and then

Clemson were suing to get the exit fees lowered and a ruling on grant of rights. The ACC contract, if I remember correctly, has a clause that they have to have a certain number of schools. CalFord and SMU were the best available on the board, and they all agreed to come on with a decreased media money share. The ACC expansion was not driven by academics, it was not driven by ND, it was driven by survival of the existing contract. ND may have an interest in the ACC staying together, and even thriving, but those moves by the ACC were in no way shape or form moves to enhance their position as an athletic conference. Those moves were a way to keep your conference, ant contract, in one piece.
Posted: 07/07/2025 at 08:24 AM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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Should ACC & B12 exchange Cal, Stanford, & SMU for WVA, UCF, Cincy? (link)**
Hokester 07/04/25 08:03 PM ET
I’m guessing Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame and Duke are joined at the hip
hokieZ71 07/05/25 07:16 PM ET
Perhaps Stanford and Cal could have gone independent.
Maroon Baboon 07/06/25 01:01 AM ET
They made their decision.
hokieZ71 07/07/25 08:40 PM ET
Mutual decision. Big 12 didn't want them.
HouClone 07/05/25 11:03 AM ET
One sinking ship to another.
VPI 1924 07/05/25 09:41 AM ET
ACC had a chance to get WVU, Cincy and UCF, and didn’t go after them.
Stech 07/05/25 09:04 AM ET
were they interested in playing for free?
daveinop 07/08/25 03:23 PM ET
The Twerps were....
2hhoop3 07/08/25 03:33 PM ET
I was thinking before the PAC meltdown, I think they would’ve have to pay
Stech 07/08/25 03:33 PM ET
Cal, Stanford, and SMU bring new market
RandomAsianGuy 07/05/25 07:20 PM ET
Bay Area is not a college sports market.
thebluelot 07/07/25 02:15 PM ET
I think WVU numbers are on the decline
RandomAsianGuy 07/07/25 02:40 PM ET
Some of your points are out of date
thebluelot 07/07/25 03:22 PM ET
You are entitled to your opinion.
RandomAsianGuy 07/07/25 06:47 PM ET
100%
thebluelot 07/07/25 08:27 PM ET
Again you are entitled to your opinion.
RandomAsianGuy 07/07/25 11:25 PM ET
Again. 100%
thebluelot 07/11/25 11:17 PM ET
Oh sure sure. **
RandomAsianGuy 07/12/25 12:01 AM ET
That statement is probably true, just not for the reasons you think. **
Big12 guy 07/07/25 08:14 PM ET
As I said my opinion is clear.
RandomAsianGuy 07/07/25 11:27 PM ET
Academics.
RJHokie 07/05/25 09:15 AM ET
Thanks RJ, I’d love2 hear what others think too, 2 see what majority think**
Stech 07/05/25 09:31 AM ET
Doubtful there will be a majority,.....
2hhoop3 07/05/25 10:59 AM ET
Cal and Stanford wouldn't do it **
HokiesACC2004 07/05/25 12:41 AM ET
Could’ve gotten them or @ least gone after them before CalFord & SMU joined
Stech 07/05/25 09:07 AM ET
That's fine but you said exchange. Not happening. **
VaTechHokiesACC 07/07/25 12:45 AM ET
Agree exchange is not happening, ND drove the additions & that’s who they
Stech 07/07/25 07:26 AM ET
Maybe a different perspective. Remember that FSU and then
Big12 guy 07/07/25 08:24 AM ET
Phillips thanked ND 4 their leadership n Expansion, Clemson & FSU 👎Expan-
Stech 07/07/25 08:55 AM ET
Again, ND has a vested interest in the ACC staying together, with
Big12 guy 07/07/25 09:11 AM ET
I never said, “ND wanted to add those schools to the detriment of the conf“
Stech 07/07/25 11:20 AM ET
Your stance on ND is just wrong. I
Big12 guy 07/07/25 11:26 AM ET
STOP!! You just want to argue, I know what I am talking about, drop your
Stech 07/07/25 12:11 PM ET
Don't want to argue. I just see ND as one of the best
Big12 guy 07/07/25 12:56 PM ET
There are obvious good things from having ND in the Conference, I am not a
Stech 07/07/25 04:06 PM ET
ND supported them to keep the ACC together
TerryD 07/13/25 08:05 PM ET
Most of what you say is true, part about no other schools would join ACC is
Stech 07/13/25 09:34 PM ET
Name them
TerryD 07/14/25 07:15 AM ET
Not doing the name game with you because you will just argue, but there
Stech 07/14/25 11:02 PM ET
"It’s all just a thought exercise." Here's what the article doesn't say.
Maroon Baboon 07/04/25 11:20 PM ET
I thought Cal & Stanford didn't want to associate...
Old Line Hokie 07/04/25 09:34 PM ET
Yes sir, also why they want no part of the new Pac 12
HokiesACC2004 07/05/25 12:42 AM ET
True. And the ACC already has two Florida schools. We don’t need UCF now. **
RandomAsianGuy 07/05/25 07:09 PM ET