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Unfortunately, I think you are right, not only for VT, but for the

entirety of the B12, and most of the ACC. Let me explain. Do a search on Kent States OOC schedule the last few years, and those coming up. Now, I'm not comparing the B12 and most of the ACC to Kent State, but the OOC schedule for those that dare could be the difference. Kent state gets those buy games against the creme de la creme for survival, not to bolster their SOS. Schools like VT, or (pick a sell out stadium in the B12) do not schedule those "payday" games because their home games are worth too much money. VT and many in the B12 schedule 1 and 1's against other P4 teams because of the money and home games, not for the paycheck. lets be real though. Hou many times does a VT or B12 school schedule a home and home with Michigan, OSU, or a top SEC school (a blue blood if you will)? Every once in a while, but not often. Now, what if VT scheduled an away game with Tennessee, Oregon, and Oklahoma without a return home game? Of course they would lose money because the OOC home games make millions more that the 2M they would receive from playing on the road without a reciprocal game - so it never happens that way. We all under stand that. What would happen though if a K-State played an OOC schedule like that 3 or 4 years in a row, and actually wone better than half of them? They would be ranked a lot more, and would have a much better chance of an at large bid if they didn't win the conference. Make no mistake, winning the conference is the goal here, not at at large bid. Going 1-2 with OOC schedule like Kent States (honestly, look at their OOC schedule), would put your team against the best in the nation, and does nothing to prevent you from winning your conference - if anything, it helps across the board, because recruits like playing in those games, and those games would get good ratings. The problem is that you lose hosting 2 home games a year, and that is almost impossible with the fan base, and of course, the money. It would be easier for VT to schedule an away game with OSU, Michigan or any other brand or blue blood, than it would to get the 1 and 1, and have those teams come to Lane. Sipping the Canadian whiskey tonight, so wth, I'll put it out there.
Posted: 02/04/2025 at 10:09 PM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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Josh Pate's commentary on ACC-ESPN extension
Maroon Baboon 02/01/25 02:20 PM ET
If the brand is # of eyeballs like he described it, I’m good with brand. VT
Stech 02/01/25 09:24 PM ET
But if only 3 teams get the majority of ND visits, their numbers will be...
EDGEMAN 02/03/25 01:43 PM ET
My question is if F$U is to be considered a brand as long as they are not
IB4TECH 02/04/25 08:07 PM ET
*Pate said in the Podcast it’s based on ratings, VT needs strong OOC games
Stech 02/04/25 08:28 PM ET
Unfortunately, I think you are right, not only for VT, but for the
Big12 guy 02/04/25 10:09 PM ET
Ratings would be okay. That gives everyone a chance.**
IB4TECH 02/04/25 08:31 PM ET
I hope we make it embarrassingly difficult for the ACC to NOT schedule VT
Marooned 02/03/25 08:36 PM ET
If ND is going to play CU, UM and FSU in football every year, they should
Maroon Baboon 02/04/25 02:41 AM ET
Hopefully, we can visit this "brand" idea periodically.
Truthahn 02/04/25 01:38 PM ET
Its the ACC doing this, ND merely agreed
TerryD 02/04/25 09:01 AM ET
Glad you said that
1947Sunbowl 02/04/25 12:25 PM ET
Understood. I don't think it's good for either party to be honest.**
Maroon Baboon 02/04/25 10:28 AM ET
it definitely benefits the ACC when ND plays on the road against them.**
reestuart 02/04/25 01:18 PM ET
So, from my perspective, this is not ND cherry picking their
Big12 guy 02/04/25 07:38 AM ET
All know that SOS component for rankings will increase in value, 4 playoff
Stech 02/04/25 11:42 AM ET
Definitely an advantage for them with ND’s TV ratings, we need 2 P4 games
Stech 02/03/25 01:55 PM ET
I question if number three is accurate
SpeakToDamien 02/01/25 07:01 PM ET
Agree. The article said they are "asking" for it.
Maroon Baboon 02/01/25 07:07 PM ET
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Maroon Baboon 02/01/25 07:00 PM ET
Number one will totally happen**
mancunian 02/01/25 06:55 PM ET
Hold on to your wallet Vanderbilt and Northwestern.**
Maroon Baboon 02/01/25 07:28 PM ET
they have private money, they are ok**
1947Sunbowl 02/02/25 04:07 PM ET
I could easily see Georgia Tech being the Mag 7 plus 1 w/ ND not wanting to
Stech 02/01/25 05:30 PM ET
yes, VT needs to be more agressive in the revenue generator and branding
1947Sunbowl 02/02/25 04:06 PM ET
So GT and Miami to the BIG one day very possible?
MrFantastic! 02/02/25 08:37 AM ET
I think GT & Miami fit the recent profile of B1G expansion candidates, VT
Stech 02/02/25 01:40 PM ET
Best case scenario, but still plausible. B1G and SEC each take one VA and
Maroon Baboon 02/02/25 01:13 PM ET
All plausible, I prefer Tech & UVA n the same Conference for Olympic sports
Stech 02/03/25 08:38 AM ET
If the networks will pay for it, anything is possible. The P2 will not
Big12 guy 02/02/25 02:25 PM ET
I see both as candidates for the B1G, GT was not included in the Mag 7, I
Stech 02/02/25 09:57 AM ET
Like Josh but he whiffed on his predictions last summer
daveinop 02/01/25 03:22 PM ET
Remember when the ACC went for that stupid 3-5-5 schedule and they stuck
Maroon Baboon 02/01/25 05:19 PM ET
That should have told you that the powers that be see VT
VTCALS72 02/04/25 11:02 AM ET
Welp. IIRC, they gave Louisville to Miami.
Maroon Baboon 02/04/25 11:58 AM ET
Yep, he’s just as big of an engagement farmer as the rest of them**
BROman Hokie 02/01/25 03:46 PM ET
I don't understand #3,
Pylons 02/01/25 02:50 PM ET
UNC and others want to a private equity deal.
33laszlo99 02/02/25 01:24 PM ET
If it is like most are saying, why would the ACC make it cheaper for FSU
VTCALS72 02/04/25 07:51 AM ET
So still just.......
2hhoop3 02/02/25 01:38 PM ET
Why not? Do you still object to individual opinions?**
33laszlo99 02/02/25 01:42 PM ET
Just of trolls......
2hhoop3 02/02/25 01:47 PM ET
Guess he’s saying they are going to reduce the penalties to leave in 2031🤷**
Stech 02/01/25 06:13 PM ET
Yes, that's obvious. Did you read my whole post?**
Pylons 02/01/25 06:17 PM ET
Yes, but I was wondering where he got that from. That’s a big deal and as
Stech 02/01/25 06:19 PM ET
It's from the ESPN article, the last paragraph. Until we know
Big12 guy 02/01/25 06:49 PM ET
The entire broadcast landscape will be significantly different in 5 years.
Maroon Unit 02/02/25 04:23 AM ET
There are so many moving parts, that I think the broadcast end of
Big12 guy 02/02/25 09:02 AM ET
Direct quote from article
Maroon Baboon 02/01/25 07:26 PM ET
What does the ACC get for making it easier for FSU etc to go somewhere else
VTCALS72 02/04/25 10:15 AM ET
Personally, I don't think the conference or ESPN
Big12 guy 02/04/25 10:21 AM ET
I think the far away date for a ruling is so far out there I don't think it
VTCALS72 02/04/25 10:56 AM ET
Yes. And a risk to ALL conferences.**
Maroon Baboon 02/04/25 10:33 AM ET
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Truthahn 02/04/25 01:04 PM ET
Nole logic. They also think that Cheerios are donut seeds.
Truthahn 02/03/25 12:51 PM ET
Cheerios as donut seeds deserves a thumbs up. **
Big12 guy 02/03/25 02:26 PM ET
And they don't eat them because they heard about the cereal killer.**
Truthahn 02/04/25 01:05 PM ET
I see it as a danger for the B12. **
Big12 guy 02/01/25 08:13 PM ET
I don't know of any "brand" that had a worse 2024 than FSU.**
Maroon Baboon 02/01/25 05:05 PM ET
They still got pie broadcast slots, and people still watched their games.
Baltimore_Hokie 02/03/25 12:04 PM ET