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2hhoop3
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Like I said below.......

I think it hinges on how rights are defined and the linkage of the contracts. The schools assigned their rights to the conference for a specific period and just because one contract is not renewed I am not sure it means they have no current and future value
Posted: 05/11/2024 at 05:06 PM ET
(In response to this post by RJHokie)

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I think it is likely ACC will have to settle for say 70 mil. from FSU and
vtox1 • 05/10/24 09:33 PM ET
I knew it was only a matter of time until Stanford to B10 was floated
I85Hokie • 05/13/24 09:35 AM ET
Yup, Stanford does not want to travel as much as they will have to with ACC
949hokie • 05/13/24 09:39 PM ET
Realignment Prediction before August
INSIDE99 • 05/12/24 10:43 PM ET
Prediction if that happens
mrcaniac • 05/13/24 03:52 PM ET
The same way the ACC handled the CFP negotiations
INSIDE99 • 05/13/24 04:37 PM ET
it's the only game in town - for now. Not sure what "their
Big12 guy • 05/13/24 07:33 PM ET
Their own thing
INSIDE99 • 05/13/24 08:46 PM ET
100%**
Big12 guy • 05/13/24 09:01 PM ET
I’m in agreement with a lot of what you said, but I see schools
WBGV • 05/13/24 03:35 PM ET
✍
Maroon Baboon • 05/13/24 12:19 PM ET
You should keep them.........
2hhoop3 • 05/13/24 12:41 PM ET
I like it
INSIDE99 • 05/13/24 02:08 PM ET
Except for FSU, it seems like the damages are causing the other potential
TDVick • 05/13/24 07:23 AM ET
Why do so many think the ACC contract is all or nothing? B12 has 2 networks
Stech • 05/13/24 09:41 AM ET
Yu might be on to something here, if they ever separate basketball. Just
Big12 guy • 05/13/24 03:48 PM ET
Okie Dokie **
Hokie83 • 05/13/24 06:25 AM ET
lol.....**
olemisshokie4life • 05/13/24 09:17 AM ET
That ain’t happening Bro…**
ombandit • 05/12/24 01:52 PM ET
Lost me at 70 million.
Maroon Baboon • 05/11/24 11:32 PM ET
Yep, I see no reason to settle for $1 less than the full amount
HokieNoVA • 05/12/24 11:51 AM ET
OU and Texas paid out 50 MILLION to the XII to leave just ONE year early
Maroon Baboon • 05/12/24 12:54 PM ET
I Think There Are More Ways For This to Play Out
WarHog38 • 05/12/24 06:33 PM ET
The GOR is independent of the media deal until a court says otherwise
VTCALS72 • 05/12/24 08:41 PM ET
Well, if the ESPN refuses to extend, then FSU's lawsuit is mostly a waste
Maroon Baboon • 05/12/24 07:39 PM ET
What are the home games worth to the rest of the conference? FSU, if
Big12 guy • 05/12/24 01:59 PM ET
Did FSU not sign an agreement that says the money goes to the ACC to
VTCALS72 • 05/12/24 08:45 PM ET
That is where you lose me. FSU signed over their rights for what? The
Big12 guy • 05/12/24 09:01 PM ET
All any of us have are opinions so, mine is with an ACC court win,
VTCALS72 • 05/12/24 10:54 PM ET
If they wanted to cut off their nose to spite their face, they could do all
TVLander • 05/12/24 02:56 PM ET
What I'm asking, is if they have home games, and the ACC has
Big12 guy • 05/12/24 03:49 PM ET
I don't think the ACC would bdoing the broadcasting but rather
VTCALS72 • 05/12/24 08:50 PM ET
In addition, the ACC needs to schedule our next three football games...
EDGEMAN • 05/12/24 12:57 PM ET
Need to move that number one decimal point to the right for starters...
EDGEMAN • 05/12/24 05:44 AM ET
Why would Espn just let them go to Fox?**
HokiesACC2004 • 05/11/24 06:41 PM ET
He’s flaming IMHO, but to cut costs. If ESPN doesn’t have to pay FSU & CU,
Stech • 05/11/24 08:58 PM ET
Seth - Fox and ESPN DID NOT separate the football and basketball
Big12 guy • 05/12/24 07:41 AM ET
ESPN still has a ton of hoops in Big 12. Fox bought 26 FB and ~63 MBB.
33laszlo99 • 05/11/24 09:23 PM ET
63 🏀 is a lot, who gets first choice on the games?
Stech • 05/11/24 09:35 PM ET
I didn't see any info on MBB selection routine, but ESPN gets the first
33laszlo99 • 05/11/24 10:32 PM ET
Yeah that’s my point, IMHO needs more college 🏀 programming and the ACC
Stech • 05/12/24 07:06 AM ET
Right. FB is on the front burner for everyone to see. Meanwhile Fox is
33laszlo99 • 05/12/24 07:51 AM ET
Everything I have been hearing lately is VT NCSU to SEC & UVA & UNC 2 B1G.
Stech • 05/12/24 05:54 PM ET
I have tried watching Mr. Addiction... no sale. I try to watch for news
33laszlo99 • 05/12/24 07:23 PM ET
Apparently they are colluding through 3rd parties letting each conference
vtox1 • 05/11/24 08:38 PM ET
Sounds like you have limited your info input to FSU and B12 podcast
VTCALS72 • 05/11/24 02:41 PM ET
Well said, point by point.**
Stech • 05/11/24 08:51 PM ET
great post
MrBayAreaHokie • 05/11/24 05:36 PM ET
To be fair, that was a legitimate gripe. ACC didn't fight for them, either
Hokie 04 • 05/11/24 07:53 PM ET
I Think the ESPN TV Contract and ACC GOR are Rudimentarily Tied Together
WarHog38 • 05/11/24 03:48 PM ET
Why do you think........
2hhoop3 • 05/11/24 04:09 PM ET
If there is no media rights contract why would there be a GOR?
RJHokie • 05/11/24 04:43 PM ET
Like I said below....... ◄
2hhoop3 • 05/11/24 05:06 PM ET
I believe the current GOR references and is tied into the
RJHokie • 05/11/24 05:44 PM ET
Your interpretation......
2hhoop3 • 05/11/24 05:55 PM ET
The Actual Definition of the Grant of Rights.
WarHog38 • 05/11/24 04:41 PM ET
No, that’s not correct…
lawhokie • 05/12/24 05:59 PM ET
Well the ACC Must Find that New Distribution
WarHog38 • 05/12/24 06:47 PM ET
Did not say......
2hhoop3 • 05/11/24 05:00 PM ET
It Looks Like We are Just Discussing the Strength of Court Cases
WarHog38 • 05/11/24 06:01 PM ET
Who said there won't be a media deal foreseeable?
VTCALS72 • 05/11/24 07:53 PM ET
Just a Subjective Viewpoint Based on Events From the Past
WarHog38 • 05/11/24 08:53 PM ET
Why has ESPN neglected signing an extension? The answer is simple.
wwhokie1 • 05/11/24 11:34 PM ET
I Agree
WarHog38 • 05/12/24 12:12 AM ET
As I said, they'd be crazy to sign it early. And I will add, with FSU and
wwhokie1 • 05/12/24 06:46 PM ET
How much would you bet.....
2hhoop3 • 05/12/24 06:40 PM ET
If you look at the GOR, then you will see that it expressly identifies the
VTHokie2000 • 05/11/24 05:26 PM ET
If the GOR was linked that tightly then
VTCALS72 • 05/11/24 07:48 PM ET
Not necessarily true since the GOR is structure where the members are
VTHokie2000 • 05/11/24 08:22 PM ET
I know what it says......
2hhoop3 • 05/11/24 05:45 PM ET
Why would ESPN not renew with the ACC
Marooned • 05/11/24 03:30 PM ET
Because they don’t need FSU and CU. They will keep them if possible but
HokieAl • 05/11/24 08:46 PM ET
It’s not just the loss of those schools to Fox
Marooned • 05/16/24 07:18 PM ET
How do you know that Stanford has endowment funds to spare? Endowment
IB4TECH • 05/11/24 10:08 AM ET
He doesn't.........
2hhoop3 • 05/11/24 10:25 AM ET
Don't cave make them pay everything you can get from them.**
Minden Hokie • 05/11/24 10:05 AM ET
Good analysis. The 2 questions, 1. Which conference? and 2. Composition of
TDVick • 05/11/24 09:06 AM ET
All the recent discussion of "Stanford" is very interesting. The June
TDVick • 05/11/24 09:18 AM ET
Combine this with congressional legislation for athlete pay getting
TDVick • 05/11/24 09:59 AM ET
How is it good, when ESPN hasn’t said they will end the contract in 2027?
Stech • 05/11/24 09:16 AM ET
I have a feeling in terms of Value, ESPN is just fine with the ACC package
DMV Gobbler • 05/11/24 02:47 PM ET
To your point, ESPN would be losing all these schools to the B10, which
TDVick • 05/11/24 09:30 AM ET
The new B10 will have 24 schools instead of 14 and will fit together quite
TDVick • 05/11/24 09:41 AM ET
Think that gets your total to 27 teams.**
133966Hokie • 05/11/24 06:21 PM ET
My bad (or 28?). Looked at last season's standings. But if Clemson
TDVick • 05/12/24 06:39 AM ET
Don't Really Think the B1G Waiting on ND is the Prime Reason the ACC Is Not
WarHog38 • 05/12/24 04:55 PM ET
As to #3
dayooper • 05/12/24 10:20 AM ET
I have witnessed the Nebraska crazies in Houston. What I'm trying to figure
TDVick • 05/12/24 12:11 PM ET
The amount of sloppiness and "oops, must have missed that" in these
Hokie 04 • 05/11/24 08:41 AM ET
satire
daveinop • 05/11/24 08:41 AM ET
ESPN's goal is not to end the ACC. Their goal is to make money. This
Big12 guy • 05/11/24 08:31 AM ET
Moving the needle
INSIDE99 • 05/11/24 01:39 PM ET
School's will have to take reduced shares to buy way in over a number of
vtox1 • 05/11/24 09:48 PM ET
ESPN told the ACC they will not renew? Did I miss that? **
Big12 guy • 05/12/24 08:19 AM ET
Big 12 Guy I Agree**
VPI 1924 • 05/11/24 11:11 AM ET
You're making a lot of poor assumptions based on Google headlines.
hokieZ71 • 05/11/24 07:24 AM ET
The horse trading truth
INSIDE99 • 05/11/24 03:25 PM ET
Where did ESPN say they will not renew ACC deal beyond 2027!?!? Please link**
Stech • 05/11/24 01:17 AM ET
Where did ESPN say they would renew beyond 2027?
INSIDE99 • 05/11/24 01:47 PM ET
Where did they say they would not renew in 2027? That’s the statement made.**
Stech • 05/11/24 01:52 PM ET
Exactly ..**
DMV Gobbler • 05/11/24 07:10 AM ET
just shaking head!!
ancient alien 2018 • 05/11/24 12:32 AM ET
My best guess where everyone lands:
vtox1 • 05/10/24 09:50 PM ET
It does seem like UNC might have swung back into B10 space. I just wish
TDVick • 05/11/24 08:57 AM ET