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He’s flaming IMHO, but to cut costs. If ESPN doesn’t have to pay FSU & CU,

that will cut costs to them, if they can renegotiate and lower the payout to those remaining in the ACC, like they did with the B12 they can save cost. Remember they aren’t paying for B12 basketball anymore, just B12 football. Many think about more revenue, but bean counters love to cut cost.That’s how they get raises/make more profit for the firm.
Posted: 05/11/2024 at 08:58 PM ET
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I think it is likely ACC will have to settle for say 70 mil. from FSU and
vtox1 05/10/24 09:33 PM ET
I knew it was only a matter of time until Stanford to B10 was floated
I85Hokie 05/13/24 09:35 AM ET
Yup, Stanford does not want to travel as much as they will have to with ACC
949hokie 05/13/24 09:39 PM ET
Realignment Prediction before August
INSIDE99 05/12/24 10:43 PM ET
Prediction if that happens
mrcaniac 05/13/24 03:52 PM ET
The same way the ACC handled the CFP negotiations
INSIDE99 05/13/24 04:37 PM ET
it's the only game in town - for now. Not sure what "their
Big12 guy 05/13/24 07:33 PM ET
Their own thing
INSIDE99 05/13/24 08:46 PM ET
100%**
Big12 guy 05/13/24 09:01 PM ET
I’m in agreement with a lot of what you said, but I see schools
WBGV 05/13/24 03:35 PM ET
Maroon Baboon 05/13/24 12:19 PM ET
You should keep them.........
2hhoop3 05/13/24 12:41 PM ET
I like it
INSIDE99 05/13/24 02:08 PM ET
Except for FSU, it seems like the damages are causing the other potential
TDVick 05/13/24 07:23 AM ET
Why do so many think the ACC contract is all or nothing? B12 has 2 networks
Stech 05/13/24 09:41 AM ET
Yu might be on to something here, if they ever separate basketball. Just
Big12 guy 05/13/24 03:48 PM ET
Okie Dokie **
Hokie83 05/13/24 06:25 AM ET
lol.....**
olemisshokie4life 05/13/24 09:17 AM ET
That ain’t happening Bro…**
ombandit 05/12/24 01:52 PM ET
Lost me at 70 million.
Maroon Baboon 05/11/24 11:32 PM ET
Yep, I see no reason to settle for $1 less than the full amount
HokieNoVA 05/12/24 11:51 AM ET
OU and Texas paid out 50 MILLION to the XII to leave just ONE year early
Maroon Baboon 05/12/24 12:54 PM ET
I Think There Are More Ways For This to Play Out
WarHog38 05/12/24 06:33 PM ET
The GOR is independent of the media deal until a court says otherwise
VTCALS72 05/12/24 08:41 PM ET
Well, if the ESPN refuses to extend, then FSU's lawsuit is mostly a waste
Maroon Baboon 05/12/24 07:39 PM ET
What are the home games worth to the rest of the conference? FSU, if
Big12 guy 05/12/24 01:59 PM ET
Did FSU not sign an agreement that says the money goes to the ACC to
VTCALS72 05/12/24 08:45 PM ET
That is where you lose me. FSU signed over their rights for what? The
Big12 guy 05/12/24 09:01 PM ET
All any of us have are opinions so, mine is with an ACC court win,
VTCALS72 05/12/24 10:54 PM ET
If they wanted to cut off their nose to spite their face, they could do all
TVLander 05/12/24 02:56 PM ET
What I'm asking, is if they have home games, and the ACC has
Big12 guy 05/12/24 03:49 PM ET
I don't think the ACC would bdoing the broadcasting but rather
VTCALS72 05/12/24 08:50 PM ET
In addition, the ACC needs to schedule our next three football games...
EDGEMAN 05/12/24 12:57 PM ET
Need to move that number one decimal point to the right for starters...
EDGEMAN 05/12/24 05:44 AM ET
Why would Espn just let them go to Fox?**
HokiesACC2004 05/11/24 06:41 PM ET
He’s flaming IMHO, but to cut costs. If ESPN doesn’t have to pay FSU & CU,
Stech 05/11/24 08:58 PM ET
Seth - Fox and ESPN DID NOT separate the football and basketball
Big12 guy 05/12/24 07:41 AM ET
ESPN still has a ton of hoops in Big 12. Fox bought 26 FB and ~63 MBB.
33laszlo99 05/11/24 09:23 PM ET
63 🏀 is a lot, who gets first choice on the games?
Stech 05/11/24 09:35 PM ET
I didn't see any info on MBB selection routine, but ESPN gets the first
33laszlo99 05/11/24 10:32 PM ET
Yeah that’s my point, IMHO needs more college 🏀 programming and the ACC
Stech 05/12/24 07:06 AM ET
Right. FB is on the front burner for everyone to see. Meanwhile Fox is
33laszlo99 05/12/24 07:51 AM ET
Everything I have been hearing lately is VT NCSU to SEC & UVA & UNC 2 B1G.
Stech 05/12/24 05:54 PM ET
I have tried watching Mr. Addiction... no sale. I try to watch for news
33laszlo99 05/12/24 07:23 PM ET
Apparently they are colluding through 3rd parties letting each conference
vtox1 05/11/24 08:38 PM ET
Sounds like you have limited your info input to FSU and B12 podcast
VTCALS72 05/11/24 02:41 PM ET
Well said, point by point.**
Stech 05/11/24 08:51 PM ET
great post
MrBayAreaHokie 05/11/24 05:36 PM ET
To be fair, that was a legitimate gripe. ACC didn't fight for them, either
Hokie 04 05/11/24 07:53 PM ET
I Think the ESPN TV Contract and ACC GOR are Rudimentarily Tied Together
WarHog38 05/11/24 03:48 PM ET
Why do you think........
2hhoop3 05/11/24 04:09 PM ET
If there is no media rights contract why would there be a GOR?
RJHokie 05/11/24 04:43 PM ET
Like I said below.......
2hhoop3 05/11/24 05:06 PM ET
I believe the current GOR references and is tied into the
RJHokie 05/11/24 05:44 PM ET
Your interpretation......
2hhoop3 05/11/24 05:55 PM ET
The Actual Definition of the Grant of Rights.
WarHog38 05/11/24 04:41 PM ET
No, that’s not correct…
lawhokie 05/12/24 05:59 PM ET
Well the ACC Must Find that New Distribution
WarHog38 05/12/24 06:47 PM ET
Did not say......
2hhoop3 05/11/24 05:00 PM ET
It Looks Like We are Just Discussing the Strength of Court Cases
WarHog38 05/11/24 06:01 PM ET
Who said there won't be a media deal foreseeable?
VTCALS72 05/11/24 07:53 PM ET
Just a Subjective Viewpoint Based on Events From the Past
WarHog38 05/11/24 08:53 PM ET
Why has ESPN neglected signing an extension? The answer is simple.
wwhokie1 05/11/24 11:34 PM ET
I Agree
WarHog38 05/12/24 12:12 AM ET
As I said, they'd be crazy to sign it early. And I will add, with FSU and
wwhokie1 05/12/24 06:46 PM ET
How much would you bet.....
2hhoop3 05/12/24 06:40 PM ET
If you look at the GOR, then you will see that it expressly identifies the
VTHokie2000 05/11/24 05:26 PM ET
If the GOR was linked that tightly then
VTCALS72 05/11/24 07:48 PM ET
Not necessarily true since the GOR is structure where the members are
VTHokie2000 05/11/24 08:22 PM ET
I know what it says......
2hhoop3 05/11/24 05:45 PM ET
Why would ESPN not renew with the ACC
Marooned 05/11/24 03:30 PM ET
Because they don’t need FSU and CU. They will keep them if possible but
HokieAl 05/11/24 08:46 PM ET
It’s not just the loss of those schools to Fox
Marooned 05/16/24 07:18 PM ET
How do you know that Stanford has endowment funds to spare? Endowment
IB4TECH 05/11/24 10:08 AM ET
He doesn't.........
2hhoop3 05/11/24 10:25 AM ET
Don't cave make them pay everything you can get from them.**
Minden Hokie 05/11/24 10:05 AM ET
Good analysis. The 2 questions, 1. Which conference? and 2. Composition of
TDVick 05/11/24 09:06 AM ET
All the recent discussion of "Stanford" is very interesting. The June
TDVick 05/11/24 09:18 AM ET
Combine this with congressional legislation for athlete pay getting
TDVick 05/11/24 09:59 AM ET
How is it good, when ESPN hasn’t said they will end the contract in 2027?
Stech 05/11/24 09:16 AM ET
I have a feeling in terms of Value, ESPN is just fine with the ACC package
DMV Gobbler 05/11/24 02:47 PM ET
To your point, ESPN would be losing all these schools to the B10, which
TDVick 05/11/24 09:30 AM ET
The new B10 will have 24 schools instead of 14 and will fit together quite
TDVick 05/11/24 09:41 AM ET
Think that gets your total to 27 teams.**
133966Hokie 05/11/24 06:21 PM ET
My bad (or 28?). Looked at last season's standings. But if Clemson
TDVick 05/12/24 06:39 AM ET
Don't Really Think the B1G Waiting on ND is the Prime Reason the ACC Is Not
WarHog38 05/12/24 04:55 PM ET
As to #3
dayooper 05/12/24 10:20 AM ET
I have witnessed the Nebraska crazies in Houston. What I'm trying to figure
TDVick 05/12/24 12:11 PM ET
The amount of sloppiness and "oops, must have missed that" in these
Hokie 04 05/11/24 08:41 AM ET
satire
daveinop 05/11/24 08:41 AM ET
ESPN's goal is not to end the ACC. Their goal is to make money. This
Big12 guy 05/11/24 08:31 AM ET
Moving the needle
INSIDE99 05/11/24 01:39 PM ET
School's will have to take reduced shares to buy way in over a number of
vtox1 05/11/24 09:48 PM ET
ESPN told the ACC they will not renew? Did I miss that? **
Big12 guy 05/12/24 08:19 AM ET
Big 12 Guy I Agree**
VPI 1924 05/11/24 11:11 AM ET
You're making a lot of poor assumptions based on Google headlines.
hokieZ71 05/11/24 07:24 AM ET
The horse trading truth
INSIDE99 05/11/24 03:25 PM ET
Where did ESPN say they will not renew ACC deal beyond 2027!?!? Please link**
Stech 05/11/24 01:17 AM ET
Where did ESPN say they would renew beyond 2027?
INSIDE99 05/11/24 01:47 PM ET
Where did they say they would not renew in 2027? That’s the statement made.**
Stech 05/11/24 01:52 PM ET
Exactly ..**
DMV Gobbler 05/11/24 07:10 AM ET
just shaking head!!
ancient alien 2018 05/11/24 12:32 AM ET
My best guess where everyone lands:
vtox1 05/10/24 09:50 PM ET
It does seem like UNC might have swung back into B10 space. I just wish
TDVick 05/11/24 08:57 AM ET