So, what makes any of you think that WVU would go to the ACC? They had
their chance, and snubbed them. Same with BYU over in the PAC. Bet they wish they were available too. There is absolutely no scenario that WVU will leave the Big12 for the ACC.
** Edited by Big12 guy at 6/4/2023, 3:53:48 PM
Thread Replies (122)
B1G expansion candidates evaluated…
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 07:13 AM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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06/02/23 07:13 AM ET
BFD, it’s just some local paper in PA.**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 03, 2023 at 07:06 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/03/23 07:06 PM ET
And not highly regarded here either
-- PaNDalum
Jun 04, 2023 at 11:29 AM ET
PaNDalum
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06/04/23 11:29 AM ET
Perception of Virginia Tech....
-- Old Line Hokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 12:55 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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06/02/23 12:55 PM ET
Perception of UVa - in terms of B1G membership - isn’t what many think
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 03, 2023 at 07:19 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/03/23 07:19 PM ET
I am surprised and somewhat alarmed that the B1G hasn't taken UW.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 03, 2023 at 09:52 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/03/23 09:52 PM ET
I agree with you. But I would also say that the ACC has three schools
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 08:52 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 08:52 PM ET
Being the best ACC choices doesn’t mean they don’t at least 1 big drawback
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 05, 2023 at 09:50 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/05/23 09:50 AM ET
More than wildly optimistic. More like ignoring reality.
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 04, 2023 at 07:54 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/04/23 07:54 PM ET
Read Maroon Baboon’s post.**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 05, 2023 at 09:41 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/05/23 09:41 AM ET
His post answers your question. If you have a different question, ask it.
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 06, 2023 at 10:55 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/06/23 10:55 AM ET
It does. Go back and re-read your question. Do you have another question?**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 07, 2023 at 10:50 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/07/23 10:50 AM ET
I don't think the B1G will leave UCLA and USC out on an "island".
-- pine52x
Jun 04, 2023 at 11:16 AM ET
pine52x
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06/04/23 11:16 AM ET
This "island" thing is quite the talking point
-- mrcaniac
Jun 04, 2023 at 06:54 PM ET
mrcaniac
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06/04/23 06:54 PM ET
It's not just distance. Time Zone factors-in for scheduling TV.**
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 04, 2023 at 07:29 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/04/23 07:29 PM ET
PAC schools are tired of "PAC12 After Dark"
-- mrcaniac
Jun 04, 2023 at 11:38 PM ET
mrcaniac
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06/04/23 11:38 PM ET
Only if the money is there. it won't be to make it easier for USC/UCLA
-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2023 at 03:37 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/23 03:37 PM ET
I hear ya. But I think if that's the strategy, it's garbage.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 01:34 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 01:34 PM ET
I can't imagine there are any "unknowns" among the PAC teams and B1G.
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 04, 2023 at 05:22 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/04/23 05:22 PM ET
On Point 1. Taking USC and the LA market all but killed the Pac-12.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 04:00 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 04:00 PM ET
I think the B1G already severely damaged to Pac-12...
-- Old Line Hokie
Jun 04, 2023 at 03:34 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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06/04/23 03:34 PM ET
B1G had little choice in the matter. When USC/UCLA came knockin'...
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 04, 2023 at 06:50 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/04/23 06:50 PM ET
Fair point. SEC had the same problem when Texas and OU came calling.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 08:54 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 08:54 PM ET
Exactly that is why im leary of thess types articles
-- Mercury
Jun 03, 2023 at 01:39 PM ET
Mercury
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06/03/23 01:39 PM ET
This is why I always vouch for West Virginia as well
-- OrlandoHokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 02:18 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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06/02/23 02:18 PM ET
We are middle of the road as far as institutional rankings go. And we love
-- RoswellGAHokie
Jun 03, 2023 at 09:04 PM ET
RoswellGAHokie
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06/03/23 09:04 PM ET
True, True, True. Excellent post! We all need to keep that in mind. **
-- pine52x
Jun 04, 2023 at 11:21 AM ET
pine52x
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06/04/23 11:21 AM ET
Sorry but in football terms, WVU’s academic/research rep isn’t P5.
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 03, 2023 at 07:22 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/03/23 07:22 PM ET
At least your opinions of WVU are consistent
-- Tailgate Guru
Jun 04, 2023 at 10:34 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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06/04/23 10:34 AM ET
If by “consistently hostile”, you mean toward weird WVU sycophants, yep.
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 04, 2023 at 07:22 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/04/23 07:22 PM ET
I'm glad they produced an excellent doctor
-- Vippie1
Jun 03, 2023 at 08:56 AM ET
Vippie1
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06/03/23 08:56 AM ET
It ranks last, or nearly last, in every metric of measurement
-- ancient alien 2018
Jun 02, 2023 at 10:07 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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06/02/23 10:07 PM ET
No way the current ACC membership ever admits WVU
-- LeadingEdge
Jun 02, 2023 at 09:25 PM ET
LeadingEdge
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06/02/23 09:25 PM ET
They need to add. Would they support Connecticut instead?
-- HOO86
Jun 04, 2023 at 02:56 PM ET
HOO86
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06/04/23 02:56 PM ET
What do you mean the ACC needs to add?
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 05, 2023 at 02:17 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/05/23 02:17 PM ET
You can’t just ignore academics either. Neither is likely a net plus.**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 05, 2023 at 10:15 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/05/23 10:15 AM ET
I would think VT would be a "yes" vote on a WVU ACC invitation.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 01:57 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 01:57 PM ET
So, what makes any of you think that WVU would go to the ACC? They had
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-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2023 at 03:44 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/23 03:44 PM ET
The P2 are dealing in the realm of Texas and USC, and you are talking about
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 04:14 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 04:14 PM ET
You are right, neither one of them are game changers, but given
-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2023 at 04:39 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/23 04:39 PM ET
If the top 4 ACC schools go, the ACC is dead anyway. I won't fret over
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 09:49 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 09:49 PM ET
I'm not excited about any of those schools either, but the basketball, as a
-- Big12 guy
Jun 05, 2023 at 01:01 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/05/23 01:01 PM ET
If the Big12 gets UCONN, it will be another missed opportunity for the ACC.**
-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2023 at 03:45 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/23 03:45 PM ET
Well, they said something similar about WVU. The BB brand is "blue blood"
-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2023 at 03:52 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/23 03:52 PM ET
UConn football could have gone up, but that ended when it decided to
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 04, 2023 at 08:14 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/04/23 08:14 PM ET
Then that reinforces my point. UCONN football has only one way to go
-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2023 at 09:15 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/23 09:15 PM ET
Actually, UConn football can go in three directions; up, down, and continue
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 05, 2023 at 06:29 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/05/23 06:29 PM ET
The one thing the state of CT did right was to build the stadium so that it
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 05, 2023 at 07:17 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/05/23 07:17 PM ET
"UCONN football has only one way to go and that is up" isn't exactly
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 10:55 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 10:55 PM ET
UCONN is a national brand - a NATIONAL brand. The football team
-- Big12 guy
Jun 05, 2023 at 11:41 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/05/23 11:41 AM ET
UConn doesn't want to put any effort into it and that's the part you are
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 05, 2023 at 06:47 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/05/23 06:47 PM ET
This is about football, if you haven't figured that out yet. Otherwise KU
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 05, 2023 at 12:08 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/05/23 12:08 PM ET
You are looking at the here and now. The football pie
-- Big12 guy
Jun 06, 2023 at 10:11 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/06/23 10:11 PM ET
Lots of straw man arguments here.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 06, 2023 at 11:14 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/06/23 11:14 PM ET
In fairness, you are not the only one posting
-- Big12 guy
Jun 07, 2023 at 04:53 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/07/23 04:53 PM ET
Yeah, but there’s no money for the ACC with WV as a member.**
-- RJHokie
Jun 04, 2023 at 04:26 PM ET
RJHokie
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06/04/23 04:26 PM ET
Wake me up when the BigXII invites UConn for football 🏈.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2023 at 04:20 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/23 04:20 PM ET
If they are invited, it will be for all sports. You guys
-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2023 at 06:54 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/23 06:54 PM ET
Half the schools in the ACC are trying to leave, so I doubt
-- WBGV
Jun 03, 2023 at 02:38 PM ET
WBGV
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06/03/23 02:38 PM ET
!/2 the schools in the ACC are negotiating. No one wants to leave
-- Big12 guy
Jun 03, 2023 at 08:29 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/03/23 08:29 PM ET
The proposed "cure" is the same as the "disease"
-- TerryD
Jun 04, 2023 at 08:43 AM ET
TerryD
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06/04/23 08:43 AM ET
Hell...the ACC was elitist toward VT for decades **
-- Tuckahokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 02:49 PM ET
Tuckahokie
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06/02/23 02:49 PM ET
Never wanted us - UNC especially - then UNC leadership ran the ACC aground
-- ValveHokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 03:03 PM ET
ValveHokie
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06/02/23 03:03 PM ET
My Heel sports dislike is strong and old...**
-- Tuckahokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 03:34 PM ET
Tuckahokie
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06/02/23 03:34 PM ET
Latest US News University Rankings are relevant to this conversation...
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jun 02, 2023 at 01:09 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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06/02/23 01:09 PM ET
Where would UVa be if it had 35k undergrad and 15-20k grad enrollment?**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 03, 2023 at 07:25 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/03/23 07:25 PM ET
If we are talking about conference membership, it is not, nor is the OP
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jun 03, 2023 at 12:53 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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06/03/23 12:53 PM ET
You may be correct about "talking heads and elitists... feed their over-
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 03, 2023 at 01:22 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/03/23 01:22 PM ET
No, they won't add those schools because they bring absolutely 0 money
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jun 03, 2023 at 01:49 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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06/03/23 01:49 PM ET
But remember one thing. Once in, the new schools are siblings
-- VTCALS72
Jun 04, 2023 at 07:32 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/04/23 07:32 AM ET
Either UVA or Tech would give value to the B1G or SEC...
-- Old Line Hokie
Jun 04, 2023 at 07:10 AM ET
Old Line Hokie
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06/04/23 07:10 AM ET
There's an excellent podcast about how bogus USN&WR rankings are
-- Tailgate Guru
Jun 02, 2023 at 04:04 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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06/02/23 04:04 PM ET
“Tech could not be located in
-- GCHokieof91
Jun 03, 2023 at 12:10 PM ET
GCHokieof91
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06/03/23 12:10 PM ET
But E&H is right next to
-- GCHokieof91
Jun 03, 2023 at 01:12 PM ET
GCHokieof91
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06/03/23 01:12 PM ET
Still, there’s not much in that area unless you consider Glade Spring
-- RJHokie
Jun 03, 2023 at 02:12 PM ET
RJHokie
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06/03/23 02:12 PM ET
Elites make the rankings. When the rest adapt to the rankings and begin to
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2023 at 11:44 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/02/23 11:44 PM ET
Thanks for posting. Eye-opening! Yet, next year I will still look at
-- pine52x
Jun 03, 2023 at 11:12 AM ET
pine52x
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06/03/23 11:12 AM ET
I’ll probably look at them too, but only to see how the hot sauce strategy
-- WBGV
Jun 03, 2023 at 01:24 PM ET
WBGV
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06/03/23 01:24 PM ET
thanks again. I listened to this podcast too. Will keep it in mind
-- pine52x
Jun 03, 2023 at 07:28 PM ET
pine52x
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06/03/23 07:28 PM ET
I think Wes Durham has it right, UVA & VT and UNC NCSU are a package
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2023 at 10:44 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/23 10:44 AM ET
Both states together add a lot. Would be...
-- HokiePail
Jun 03, 2023 at 03:47 PM ET
HokiePail
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06/03/23 03:47 PM ET
I'd favor UVA / UNC to one conference and VT / NCSU to the other...
-- jesuisvtguy
Jun 02, 2023 at 02:31 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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06/02/23 02:31 PM ET
I could easily live with that for 🏈, but with other sports I like regional
-- Stech
Jun 03, 2023 at 08:59 AM ET
Stech
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06/03/23 08:59 AM ET
Precisely why lack of foresight is ruining all of college sports...
-- BUGGZY
Jun 03, 2023 at 09:33 AM ET
BUGGZY
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06/03/23 09:33 AM ET
Question is if the courts or Congress decide that revenue players be paid?
-- Stech
Jun 03, 2023 at 12:52 PM ET
Stech
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06/03/23 12:52 PM ET
I loved when we were in the Big East and they were in the ACC.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2023 at 10:39 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/02/23 10:39 PM ET
Only been conference mates for 35ish years
-- mrcaniac
Jun 03, 2023 at 12:41 AM ET
mrcaniac
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06/03/23 12:41 AM ET
Offering themselves as a Boxed Set might be a good idea.
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 02, 2023 at 01:25 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/02/23 01:25 PM ET
I don’t think it will take the nuclear option for 🏀 to expand the tourny,
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2023 at 05:12 PM ET
Stech
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06/02/23 05:12 PM ET
I don't see all 4 going to the same conference unless the rubric of
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2023 at 01:24 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/02/23 01:24 PM ET
Hardly any 2 states are as big as Cali.....
-- HokiePail
Jun 03, 2023 at 03:53 PM ET
HokiePail
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06/03/23 03:53 PM ET
You are finally coming around to what I have been saying for a while now re
-- 133193Hokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 11:27 AM ET
133193Hokie
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06/02/23 11:27 AM ET
It's not the Daytons that the P6 basketball schools objected to
-- mrcaniac
Jun 02, 2023 at 09:21 PM ET
mrcaniac
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06/02/23 09:21 PM ET
NCAA should have used tourney money to start the +1 bowl decades ago.
-- Truthahn
Jun 03, 2023 at 07:10 AM ET
Truthahn
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06/03/23 07:10 AM ET
It isn't possible under the current (or previous bylaws). Remember the
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 03, 2023 at 04:22 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/03/23 04:22 PM ET
I don't understand your "finally coming around", I've been sayin bball is
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2023 at 11:59 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/23 11:59 AM ET
I agree with that as well. It would set a huge boundary also....
-- hokieZ71
Jun 02, 2023 at 10:46 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/02/23 10:46 AM ET
Cant disagree with just about anything he wrote. While he addresses AZ and
-- 133193Hokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 09:55 AM ET
133193Hokie
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06/02/23 09:55 AM ET
Only issue with this article is Georgia Tech
-- Alpharetta Hokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 09:51 AM ET
Alpharetta Hokie
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06/02/23 09:51 AM ET
GT can’t even access top Georgia talent. **
-- RoswellGAHokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 11:35 AM ET
RoswellGAHokie
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06/02/23 11:35 AM ET
Academics is one big reason for that,
-- RJHokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 12:28 PM ET
RJHokie
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06/02/23 12:28 PM ET
You can forgot about any reasoning on Ruts in the B1G. In today's world
-- 133193Hokie
Jun 02, 2023 at 09:59 AM ET
133193Hokie
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06/02/23 09:59 AM ET
I'm waiting on Rutgers to get voted out. They have zero place in the B1G**
-- hokieZ71
Jun 02, 2023 at 10:44 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/02/23 10:44 AM ET
FSU and Clemson too low. Louisville and Stanford too high IMO.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2023 at 09:39 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/02/23 09:39 AM ET
Thanks for posting. For the most part I agree with the article. Reasonable**
-- pine52x
Jun 02, 2023 at 09:26 AM ET
pine52x
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06/02/23 09:26 AM ET