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You trumpet a win/win.....

but, do you really have any examples of a win/win? You use KKR but, I am not sure you can point to a single transaction of theirs that has been a win/win. Note you can point to CHI Overhead Door and a limited number of others where KKR ignored their normal cost cutting and financial reengineering models to focus on employees and save a company, however, the win/win component was sacrificed as they did not achieve their own needed returns. Sacrificing a limited number of opportunities for positive PR is a short term media rather than a long term business strategy. Valuations, multiples, ROI usually go up because making money is what they do but, companies, communities, employees, etc. are generally stripped carcasses, if they continue to exist at all. Your idea of PE taking the control of media negotiations and/or magically healing the ailing weak sisters like the Big 12 and the ACC seems farcical to me. The big boys(SEC and BIG) along with the networks inviting the fast buck guys in is akin to the chickens inviting the fox to the hen house for a meal oblivious to the fact they are about to become the meal. I will ask you the same question already asked but, yet still unanswered. As much as PE has been talked about and the acknowledged ability of the fast buck boys to do a deal, why no action yet? I think we both know why and that is because when the curtain gets pulled back on actual deal specifics the juice has not yet been, and might never be, worth the squeeze. You are entitled to your perspective, I just disagree with it based on business principles and having experience watching the PE vulchers work up close. ** Edited by 2hhoop3 at 10/2/2025, 6:50:01 PM
Posted: 10/02/2025 at 05:56 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Conference Penalties 4 leaving, could be struck down, case isn’t dismissed!
Stech 10/01/25 08:58 AM ET
Problems: If BIG get's the $2 billion deal with private equity, why in hell
ancient alien 2018 10/02/25 01:54 AM ET
Aside from asking.......
2hhoop3 10/02/25 07:02 AM ET
Gotta finish realignment first.
33laszlo99 10/02/25 11:35 PM ET
Good response.........
2hhoop3 10/03/25 02:45 AM ET
We do not know how this ends yet. The ACC settled, but there are
Big12 guy 10/03/25 01:21 PM ET
Was there actually.....
2hhoop3 10/03/25 01:26 PM ET
Yes, yes there is. Us B12 shills are still here :)**
Big12 guy 10/03/25 01:58 PM ET
My biggest question for either the BIG or SEC would be, with projected
ancient alien 2018 10/02/25 06:55 PM ET
I think there COULD......
2hhoop3 10/02/25 07:12 PM ET
Quite logical Mr. Spock!!**
ancient alien 2018 10/02/25 09:25 PM ET
I think many are looking at the PE concept differently,
Big12 guy 10/02/25 03:58 PM ET
You trumpet a win/win.....
2hhoop3 10/02/25 05:56 PM ET
There is no world where I would try and
Big12 guy 10/02/25 08:24 PM ET
I would tell you to.....
2hhoop3 10/02/25 08:48 PM ET
With the NFL, you are correct. It appears that PE is
Big12 guy 10/02/25 09:00 PM ET
I subscribe to Occam......
2hhoop3 10/02/25 09:05 PM ET
An opinion? **
Big12 guy 10/02/25 09:23 PM ET
Nope
2hhoop3 10/02/25 09:29 PM ET
haha - I did. In this case, maybe it is you that should investigate further**
Big12 guy 10/02/25 09:38 PM ET
That is doubtful......
2hhoop3 10/02/25 09:42 PM ET
Agreed. The schools need to read that contract carefully.**
VT ChemE 1986 10/02/25 11:11 AM ET
Whether a school can leave the ACC is no longer the issue in my opinion
RandomAsianGuy 10/01/25 07:01 PM ET
There are absolutely no incentives for a P2 conference to add any
ancient alien 2018 10/02/25 01:58 AM ET
I hear you. but with Virginia Tech needing to catch up it needs to be later
Stech 10/01/25 07:34 PM ET
I don’t disagree but VT probably needs a miracle turnaround. **
RandomAsianGuy 10/01/25 07:44 PM ET
I hope we got it yesterday.**
Stech 10/01/25 08:45 PM ET
No impact on ACC. We have an internal contract signed by schools
HokieAl 10/01/25 03:07 PM ET
If they strike down exit penalties like they did for non-compete clauses,
Stech 10/01/25 04:56 PM ET
Feels like contract law to me...PAC signed a scheduling contract with...
DoYouLiftHokies 10/01/25 02:48 PM ET
Could go that way, but if the courts rule it is a restraint of free trade.
Stech 10/01/25 04:58 PM ET