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It’s insanity

The Big 12 as presently constituted is a good league. It may someday have buyer’s remorse for Cincinnati and UCF, but at least those schools play legitimate football. Learn the lesson of the Big East and, for that matter, the ACC. DO NOT MIX SCHOOLS THAT TAKE FOOTBALL SERIOUSLY WITH THOSE THAT DON’T. Division and misplaced priorities will abound. And keep the culture consistent. UConn fans want to play Syracuse and Georgetown and Villanova and St. John’s. They always will. And it turns out they can be really successful doing it and generate a big pile of money. And more likely than not, they will get to play Cuse regularly again real soon and, for laughs, the school in Boston that has tried to hold them back for years. And Wake and maybe Duke. And there is a school out in Indiana that is going to need to park basketball and non-revenue sports somewhere soon, that happens to draw well in NYC. And maybe Pitt. And maybe Georgia Tech. They won’t need far flung trips to Creighton anymore, if they choose. Anyone who thinks a combination of the best of the Big East with the remnants of the ACC wouldn’t be successful has never watched a Yankees-Red Sox game and perhaps isn’t old enough to have seen Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullen, Pearl Washington, Kelly Tripucka, Mugsy Bogues and Mark Price play hoops. It might not have the best team every year but it would print more money than ANY other basketball league, and it would not be particularly close. For the simple reason that the northeast in particular consumes college basketball at a higher volume than any other area and local interest drives the ratings. UConn-Kansas or maybe UConn-Arizona may be appointment viewing, but no one in the northeast is begging to see UConn play Kansas State or Iowa State or Baylor or Texas Tech or Colorado, or even Houston, WVU and Cincinnati.
Posted: 08/24/2024 at 08:59 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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It looks like UConn and Big XII are chatting
CobbCountyHokie • 08/23/24 04:33 PM ET
Seems like a potentially bad idea for the future (at least from a football
cincyhokie • 08/27/24 10:14 PM ET
New Rumor of a major conference again pursuing UConn puts Big East’s future
WBGV • 08/25/24 02:06 PM ET
The linked article reads like it was written by AI. Also, losing UCONN-
Baltimore_Hokie • 08/26/24 10:16 AM ET
Can they keep up their basketball without P4 money and paying players? **
HouClone • 08/26/24 02:25 PM ET
I think so. The Big East hasn't been a true "power conference" now in over-
Baltimore_Hokie • 08/26/24 04:17 PM ET
Don't know your thoughts on this, Big12Guy, but this could be a baller move
TVLander • 08/25/24 09:43 AM ET
I'm not sure the comparison to SMU is fair, to either school. SMU
Big12 guy • 08/25/24 11:53 AM ET
If this goes down
Millpoint • 08/25/24 05:25 AM ET
If Yormark is building B12 🏀, why wouldn’t he take Gonzaga too?
Stech • 08/25/24 07:59 AM ET
Not a good fit
Millpoint • 08/25/24 09:47 AM ET
I concur. **
Big12 guy • 08/25/24 11:30 AM ET
Football? UConn has a football team, although many don't know it yet. **
Big12 guy • 08/25/24 08:13 AM ET
Yes, but UCONN 🏈 doesn’t join until 2031, so this is about 🏀, and what if
Stech • 08/25/24 09:02 AM ET
UConn football is a risk to the conference, no doubt. A basketball
Big12 guy • 08/25/24 09:14 AM ET
If UNC leaves the ACC, I agree on UCONN, but I am guessing go west is where
Stech • 08/25/24 09:26 AM ET
Geographic breakdown
TerryD • 08/26/24 08:42 AM ET
Sure explains getting NoCal and Dallas markets, I see SoCal & Houston as
Stech • 08/26/24 09:00 AM ET
Lots of good news for Northeast football.
Truthahn • 08/24/24 06:14 PM ET
Not in the least
Tailgate Guru • 08/24/24 07:24 PM ET
There are enough good players up there. But Penn State, ND, and Michigan **
OrlandoHokie • 08/24/24 08:40 PM ET
If there were enough
Tailgate Guru • 08/24/24 09:13 PM ET
Anyone who thinks different
Tailgate Guru • 08/24/24 09:36 PM ET
Conference realignment rumors are back. Why UConn remains interested in B12
WBGV • 08/24/24 10:01 AM ET
2yrs 3mths. Perfect timing if ESPN re-ups with the ACC in 02/25 for 2027.
hokieZ71 • 08/24/24 09:01 PM ET
I'll keep saying it. If conferences don't make basketball-oriented
TDVick • 08/24/24 09:20 AM ET
UConn is not Duke or Kansas
Tailgate Guru • 08/24/24 07:46 PM ET
tied w/UNC for 3rd most national championships. 1 more than Duke and 2
reestuart • 08/26/24 12:24 PM ET
6 National championships set them apart in my view. Villanova
Big12 guy • 08/24/24 07:50 PM ET
It’s insanity ◄
Tailgate Guru • 08/24/24 08:59 PM ET
I think I agree with most of that, but I have a few thoughts that may go
Big12 guy • 08/25/24 07:47 AM ET
Basketball future money is way underrated. I think they expand the teams
Stech • 08/24/24 11:36 AM ET
I agree that we will see a boost in MBB revenue, but...
33laszlo99 • 08/24/24 05:55 PM ET
Agree, that’s the most probable year, but I have also heard, there might be
Stech • 08/24/24 08:57 PM ET
Given it was just extended.......
2hhoop3 • 08/24/24 09:02 PM ET
Looks Like This Explosion in NCAA Basketball Tournament Revenue is Nearly
WarHog38 • 08/24/24 06:50 PM ET
Currently, the NCAA has a settlement that has not been ratified. If
Big12 guy • 08/24/24 07:42 PM ET
Given that the new contract........
2hhoop3 • 08/24/24 01:40 PM ET
Maybe though the reason football drives the boat
Vippie1 • 08/24/24 10:16 AM ET
This article says the NCAA made $1.3 billion last year,
TDVick • 08/24/24 11:12 AM ET
Hope you are correct
Vippie1 • 08/24/24 11:46 AM ET
What does this say about the ACC? They expand west, if they expand? Article
Stech • 08/24/24 08:25 AM ET
hmmm hmmm seems go west
1947Sunbowl • 08/24/24 03:53 PM ET
Get the contract and they are. **
Big12 guy • 08/24/24 04:16 PM ET
Now that the ACC is national it opens up more possibility
HOO86 • 08/24/24 12:44 PM ET
Then it seems they should grab some large populations out West, San Diego/
Stech • 08/24/24 01:03 PM ET
With the ACCN that's important
HOO86 • 08/24/24 01:14 PM ET
If ACC expands, they need critical mass in other time zones besides
Femoyer Hokie • 08/24/24 10:31 AM ET
Fox has Tubi
HOO86 • 08/24/24 12:33 PM ET
The ACC doesn’t need UConn.
hokieZ71 • 08/24/24 08:47 AM ET
UConn to the B12 would help the ACC.
Truthahn • 08/24/24 03:34 PM ET
What??? lmao. Who in the ACC gives a rat's patootti about NE football?
ancient alien 2018 • 08/24/24 10:00 PM ET
If Yormark and the B12 are willing to hold their nose on UConn
TDVick • 08/24/24 11:49 AM ET
Could make for a strong argument the B12 has limited options out East.
hokieZ71 • 08/24/24 08:03 AM ET
Interesting . Its the basketball which is national brand
1947Sunbowl • 08/24/24 08:00 AM ET
I can see the Big 12 involving MSG in some way every year.
HouClone • 08/24/24 09:14 AM ET
Big 12 is the best hoops conference in the country.
hokieZ71 • 08/24/24 08:04 AM ET
gonna bring in that coveted Hartford TV market :)**
MrBayAreaHokie • 08/23/24 10:27 PM ET
UConn wouldn't be a market addition. It's a brand addition.
HOO86 • 08/24/24 12:47 PM ET
Long running tsl joke Hoo ….will add insider-joke font in the future**
MrBayAreaHokie • 08/24/24 01:08 PM ET
Not to mention the massive Hartford college football market**
EDGEMAN • 08/24/24 05:10 AM ET
UConn would join in all sports, but FB initially. Full membership in 2031
WBGV • 08/23/24 06:24 PM ET
Apparently football would have to meet certain investment requirements
wwhokie1 • 08/23/24 07:35 PM ET
I think it's more FOX is willing to pay, and ESPN is not. Financial
Big12 guy • 08/23/24 07:48 PM ET
What are your thoughts on UConn and Big 12?**
Millpoint • 08/24/24 11:10 AM ET
Thought it was a good idea the first time around. The B12 can not add
Big12 guy • 08/24/24 11:52 AM ET
Flags in the NE…
hokieZ71 • 08/24/24 08:40 AM ET
The Big 12 knows they can't compete against the SEC and the Big ten.
wwhokie1 • 08/24/24 08:37 AM ET
Fox just signed new deal w/ the Big East. Why would they want to weaken it?**
SMU Pony • 08/24/24 07:58 AM ET
I don't know. There are lots of reasons that this does not make sense.
Big12 guy • 08/24/24 08:08 AM ET
Such a huge college football market up there...lol**
EDGEMAN • 08/24/24 07:50 AM ET
When you have nothing, you have nothing to lose. The ACC is trying to
Big12 guy • 08/24/24 07:57 AM ET
I can think of a couple reasons why the ACC didn't want UConn.
VTHokie2000 • 08/24/24 01:36 PM ET
Adding UConn is a very risky move, for either the B12, or the ACC. Their
Big12 guy • 08/24/24 02:04 PM ET
We've learned they don't deliver the NY market. That's exclusively the...
EDGEMAN • 08/24/24 07:59 AM ET
A free link to the story. There are other articles as well.
Big12 guy • 08/23/24 04:50 PM ET
U-Conn Won Two Consecutive Basketball Nattys
WarHog38 • 08/23/24 08:27 PM ET
I don't think anyone saw the PAC imploding like it did. Yormark
Big12 guy • 08/23/24 08:35 PM ET
However That Still Doesn't Explain YorMark's Off & On Again Approach
WarHog38 • 08/23/24 08:55 PM ET
I would be shocked if ESPN walks. When the PAC imploded, the networks
Big12 guy • 08/23/24 09:29 PM ET
I Think You Need To Get Ready to Be Again Shocked
WarHog38 • 08/23/24 10:15 PM ET
NE Division might appeal to Yormark, but with those schools, anyone else? **
ombandit • 08/24/24 07:51 AM ET
You Do Have a Point, Big Media is Writing All the Checks**
WarHog38 • 08/24/24 03:42 PM ET