Say what you will, but I'm not blowing the Big12 horn.
The Big12 as it stands today is just a shell of it's former self, but somehow, they pulled together and got a very competitive media deal. We lived through our conference collapsing, and survived.
The ACC as it stands now is a superior athletic conference then the Big12, but relying on the GOR to keep it together in the current environment, only buys time for those that will not be invited to the BIG or SEC.
Winter is coming, but the idea some think the ACC will not survive surprises me. There may or may not be some North east schools that end up in the Big12, hell, many on this board are ready to throw Cuse and Louisville of the bus as we speak, and there is still chatter of picking up WVU and Cincy - it just doesn't make sense to me.
Say 4 schools being poached from those two conferences, and there are 10 left. It's pretty likely from where I'm sitting, and it begs the question, who will the ACC add? What moves can the ACC make right here and now to have the inventory if that were to happen?
It's just a different perspective of aa guy that thought his school was going to get invited to the P2, and didn't. Life didn't end, and they pulled a conference out of their backside that actually looks like it's going to be a LOT of fun, with parity and growth.
VT is caught up in the here and now, and they will land on their feet no matter which conference they end up in, I'm just saying that you can hope for the best, but make sure you plan for the worst.
The top programs in the Big12 and PAC actually prevented expansion, then left for greener pastures. The middle and lower teams in the ACC need to stand up and be counted now, or it might be too late.
Thread Replies (61)
Other conferences would be wise to use Flex Protect Plus schedule
-- Millpoint
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:06 AM ET
Millpoint
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06/09/23 08:06 AM ET
Don’t we sell Flex Protect Plus on the ACCN?**
-- Truthahn
Jun 10, 2023 at 07:09 AM ET
Truthahn
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06/10/23 07:09 AM ET
Along with the Ronco veg-o-matic and spurtles**
-- VPI_1998
Jun 10, 2023 at 02:48 PM ET
VPI_1998
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06/10/23 02:48 PM ET
It’s the spurtle of football scheduling **
-- Hokie1992
Jun 12, 2023 at 07:28 AM ET
Hokie1992
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06/12/23 07:28 AM ET
It’s a space age condom. Be like the astronauts, kids!**
-- mancunian
Jun 10, 2023 at 10:37 AM ET
mancunian
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06/10/23 10:37 AM ET
A potential issue with teams not having the same number of protected games
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 09, 2023 at 06:30 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/09/23 06:30 PM ET
It ends up giving you VT and Wake as a rivalry game**
-- Hokie1992
Jun 12, 2023 at 07:30 AM ET
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06/12/23 07:30 AM ET
That decision happened because the ACC chose to not protect the VT-GT and
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 13, 2023 at 03:12 PM ET
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06/13/23 03:12 PM ET
Don’t give them four rivals. Cap it at 2 or 3
-- Millpoint
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:53 PM ET
Millpoint
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06/09/23 08:53 PM ET
That is just it though some school do have more than 3 conference rivals.
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 09, 2023 at 09:09 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/09/23 09:09 PM ET
The key is to not give everyone more than 2 protected games...
-- jesuisvtguy
Jun 09, 2023 at 06:40 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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06/09/23 06:40 PM ET
I wish that was our only protected game then.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:31 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 08:31 PM ET
The problem though is that some teams legitimately have more than 2 rivals
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 09, 2023 at 06:55 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/09/23 06:55 PM ET
IMO, the only team that needs 3 is UNC. And I'd be glad to make an
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:34 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 08:34 PM ET
Maybe so, but someone could also make a case that protecting the Duke-UNC
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 09, 2023 at 09:05 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/09/23 09:05 PM ET
You raise a valid point about having an easier road to the championship
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 10, 2023 at 09:24 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/10/23 09:24 AM ET
Toy are making a conference argument, and mercury is making
-- Big12 guy
Jun 11, 2023 at 07:31 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/11/23 07:31 AM ET
I don't see the point I raised as being 2 separate issues though. VT isn't
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 11, 2023 at 02:06 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/11/23 02:06 PM ET
We should be promoting lacrosse more, imo.
-- Truthahn
Jun 10, 2023 at 07:17 AM ET
Truthahn
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06/10/23 07:17 AM ET
Title IX and $ are the answers. **
-- RJHokie
Jun 10, 2023 at 08:33 AM ET
RJHokie
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06/10/23 08:33 AM ET
If at some point schools decide to pay football and men's basketball
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 10, 2023 at 09:40 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/10/23 09:40 AM ET
EEOC rules could replace Title IX as the primary compliance issues
-- RJHokie
Jun 10, 2023 at 09:49 AM ET
RJHokie
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06/10/23 09:49 AM ET
I think UNC-Duke should be protected.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 09:54 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 09:54 PM ET
FWIW the winning team has the same passion when it runs over to claim the
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 09, 2023 at 10:45 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/09/23 10:45 PM ET
Moral of the story: play more conference games.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 10, 2023 at 12:28 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/10/23 12:28 AM ET
I do think that is 1 potential moral, but there could be others too
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 10, 2023 at 09:16 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/10/23 09:16 AM ET
Exactly right. Big10 also got it correct on this one...
-- jesuisvtguy
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:41 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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06/09/23 08:41 PM ET
VT should play Miami every year, but that ship has sailed I guess**
-- Tailgate Guru
Jun 09, 2023 at 11:35 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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06/09/23 11:35 AM ET
Virginia Tech & Miami in the ACC Championship this year, heard it here 1st
-- Stech
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:47 PM ET
Stech
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06/09/23 08:47 PM ET
Any idea why Miami didn't want to play VT every year anymore? **
-- UVa 2002
Jun 09, 2023 at 11:58 AM ET
UVa 2002
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06/09/23 11:58 AM ET
We are not viewed as a rival to them **
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Jun 11, 2023 at 03:51 AM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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06/11/23 03:51 AM ET
they've beaten VT 7 of the last 10 times**
-- reestuart
Jun 09, 2023 at 12:57 PM ET
reestuart
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06/09/23 12:57 PM ET
Doesn't mean they aren't scared.
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 09, 2023 at 01:28 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/09/23 01:28 PM ET
But based on who Miami got stuck with, they screwed themselves IF
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 12:10 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 12:10 PM ET
When I suggested this in the past, some people argued against it saying
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 11:28 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 11:28 AM ET
Add NC State-Wake and Miami-BC?**
-- hokieball
Jun 09, 2023 at 11:39 AM ET
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06/09/23 11:39 AM ET
I can't think of any memorable NCSU vs Wake or UM vs BC except Flutie...
-- jesuisvtguy
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:48 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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06/09/23 08:48 PM ET
I'm not sure I would make that assumption about NC State particularly since
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 09, 2023 at 09:19 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/09/23 09:19 PM ET
I'd be fine with those, too.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 11:41 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 11:41 AM ET
Might as well add Duke-Wake too**
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 09, 2023 at 06:32 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/09/23 06:32 PM ET
I'm just glad B1G protected Twerps-Ruts!!**
-- Lakeridgehokie
Jun 09, 2023 at 10:42 AM ET
Lakeridgehokie
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06/09/23 10:42 AM ET
That was smart because it uses up that inventory slot...
-- jesuisvtguy
Jun 11, 2023 at 01:00 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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06/11/23 01:00 PM ET
An absolute must 😭
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 12:00 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 12:00 PM ET
This is so true. The Big10 (once again) gets it.
-- 133966Hokie
Jun 09, 2023 at 09:54 AM ET
133966Hokie
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06/09/23 09:54 AM ET
In fairness to the ACC, they kind of tried...
-- jesuisvtguy
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:59 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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06/09/23 08:59 PM ET
Thus Wvu and Cincinnati to Acc
-- MrFantastic!
Jun 09, 2023 at 09:05 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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06/09/23 09:05 AM ET
Fantasy The ACC turned WVU and CINCY down - you guys had your chance. Next.
-- Big12 guy
Jun 09, 2023 at 12:17 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/09/23 12:17 PM ET
Haha, now that is a salty response. lets take a look at what you typed,
-- Big12 guy
Jun 11, 2023 at 08:53 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/11/23 08:53 AM ET
LOL. You should have stopped at the subject line.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 01:04 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 01:04 PM ET
Say what you will, but I'm not blowing the Big12 horn.
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-- Big12 guy
Jun 09, 2023 at 02:35 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/09/23 02:35 PM ET
yeah, the Big Ten teams will all play each other at least twice every 4
-- reestuart
Jun 09, 2023 at 09:01 AM ET
reestuart
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06/09/23 09:01 AM ET
The ACC is a joke , 37.5% of the games are "protected" when
-- Vippie1
Jun 09, 2023 at 08:24 AM ET
Vippie1
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06/09/23 08:24 AM ET
I would respect long-standing series.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 11:47 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 11:47 AM ET
I get the worth of those games BUT
-- Vippie1
Jun 09, 2023 at 12:24 PM ET
Vippie1
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06/09/23 12:24 PM ET
Fair enough. I would also argue that we should be playing MORE conference
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 09, 2023 at 12:28 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/09/23 12:28 PM ET
If the ACC was willing to go to 10 conference games, then it could have
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 09, 2023 at 06:41 PM ET
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06/09/23 06:41 PM ET