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Tough to go into debt in this environment. ISU

for example has halted ALL of their CAPEX into facilities, some which actually had donations, and had been in the works for many years. They too are struggling on where to come up with the $20M+ for revenue sharing, as all schools are. it's easier of course for an Ohio State to find $20M+ lying around, but even with P2 distributions, some in those conferences are struggling as well. It seems to be the price of admission to be competitive these days, as the increase in media money and playoff money is a double edged sword currently. I think it's why schools and conferences are looking at PE. I learned that Kansas was one of the schools that was a hard no on PE, as was TT, and a couple of others. Looking at the deep pocket donors of those schools, it's not hard to figure out why.
Posted: 08/20/2025 at 12:45 PM ET
(In response to this post by RandomAsianGuy)

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Reading quotes from BoV meeting, Whit went a bit scorched earth
HokieAl • 08/19/25 11:51 AM ET
And if this is not Whit... and the situation is pretty obvious, then isn't
TDVick • 08/19/25 10:30 PM ET
Here it is!! Don't like the truth? Fire me. Want to get to work? Call me.
ancient alien 2018 • 08/19/25 08:49 PM ET
Does the fan base truly have the appetite to buy a competitive team?
MP4VT2004 • 08/20/25 08:32 PM ET
VT needs to spend more. That’s for sure. **
RandomAsianGuy • 08/20/25 12:11 PM ET
Tough to go into debt in this environment. ISU ◄
Big12 guy • 08/20/25 12:45 PM ET
There is an enrollment cliff right around the corner. Adding debt now
VT ChemE 1986 • 08/20/25 01:58 PM ET
ITs not an erollment cliff but more competition
1947Sunbowl • 08/20/25 02:11 PM ET
Given the changes (proposed and enacted) under the current administration,
VTHokie2000 • 08/21/25 10:00 AM ET
Guess what the ones who can will to the chosen schools rest well.
1947Sunbowl • 08/21/25 08:29 PM ET
But will the students be able to afford the tuition? Plus, if the feds cut
VTHokie2000 • 08/22/25 11:47 AM ET
Agree with you 100%
VT ChemE 1986 • 08/20/25 02:29 PM ET
What the hell has he been doing the last 5-10 years.**
Atlee Hokie • 08/20/25 10:40 AM ET
Being an administrator
VT ChemE 1986 • 08/20/25 11:25 AM ET
Those who can, do. Those who can't go into management.**
saret • 08/20/25 11:53 AM ET
Gee I thought that was
VTCALS72 • 08/20/25 12:18 PM ET
OK, I can agree to that. But, I did it, and am now retired. And, that
saret • 08/20/25 12:49 PM ET
absolutely**
VTCALS72 • 08/20/25 04:41 PM ET
Apparently playing tiddlywinks with John Ballein…….
RJHokie • 08/20/25 11:19 AM ET
👆👆👆👆👆 This presentation and conversation was needed in 2012**
91HokieBob • 08/20/25 10:44 AM ET
That would have been a Herculean vision, but 2020 certainly.**
VT ChemE 1986 • 08/20/25 11:26 AM ET
The 2012 version would have been precursor. A gauge of peer programs as
91HokieBob • 08/20/25 09:10 PM ET
Good post! Good observations!**
saret • 08/19/25 06:07 PM ET
Where has this been the past 10 years?
Atlee Hokie • 08/19/25 05:58 PM ET
I think it is because few saw or wanted to believe the play for pay
VTCALS72 • 08/20/25 08:07 AM ET
It was obvious to all of us amateurs on this board. Maybe we deserve
VT ChemE 1986 • 08/20/25 11:58 AM ET
Even if "us amateurs" did see this
VTCALS72 • 08/20/25 12:09 PM ET
I agree. And, we should also consider that if the answer is to
saret • 08/20/25 12:48 PM ET
Being in a large group of ignorance doesn't relieve the HC of its
saret • 08/20/25 10:36 AM ET
Anagrams for Whit Babcock, chose your fav
MrBayAreaHokie • 08/20/25 01:21 AM ET
Feel free to use any as a new Twitter handle lol**
MrBayAreaHokie • 08/20/25 01:21 AM ET
You gotta admit, "What Bib Cock?" is pretty damn good**
MrBayAreaHokie • 08/20/25 06:57 PM ET
I think the BoV is correct.
VPI 1924 • 08/19/25 04:51 PM ET
Well that’s dramatic and ridiculous **
Brewing_Hokie • 08/19/25 10:33 PM ET
Those two comments stood out 2 me too, once u talk about th end, it’s over!
Stech • 08/19/25 03:26 PM ET
Excellent comment Stech**
hokie4ever • 08/20/25 08:37 AM ET
His presentation would have been better received by me
Vippie1 • 08/19/25 05:36 PM ET
I believe that is an incorrect take
VTCALS72 • 08/20/25 08:24 AM ET
Can u give us facts to back up what you’re saying? Or is this your opinion?**
Stech • 08/20/25 07:56 PM ET
CALS rarely has facts…….**
RJHokie • 08/20/25 08:03 PM ET
Rarely.......
2hhoop3 • 08/20/25 08:58 PM ET
They reason they wanted no part of VT is becuase of Whit. Fire him and then
NokieHokie • 08/20/25 11:12 AM ET
Don't disagree but how the President and BOV handles the funding issue will
Jwunderdog • 08/20/25 11:22 AM ET
Circle jerks are like that.**
saret • 08/20/25 11:52 AM ET
The current president......
2hhoop3 • 08/20/25 11:34 AM ET
Well your last line is more or less my case
Vippie1 • 08/20/25 10:48 AM ET
First, forget the "turnaround" stuff
VTCALS72 • 08/20/25 12:15 PM ET
I'll never figure out how you can sit there and talk about how VT-
Baltimore_Hokie • 08/20/25 12:28 PM ET
We didn’t have the $ to hire a prominent head coach, wanted Campbell but…
ombandit • 08/19/25 09:58 PM ET
But why didn't we have the money? Poor leadership
saret • 08/19/25 10:16 PM ET
We were the last school that could afford to invest in boutique, non-rev
TDVick • 08/19/25 10:24 PM ET
Agreed. Poor leadership at multiple levels.**
saret • 08/20/25 10:42 AM ET
Last sport we added was women’s golf, and that was when Weaver was the
RJHokie • 08/19/25 10:26 PM ET
Haven't other schools "net-cut" even though they have bigger budgets?**
TDVick • 08/19/25 10:31 PM ET
Here's a link to an article re: universities who have cut non-revs
saret • 08/20/25 12:08 PM ET
Not in the past few years.
RJHokie • 08/19/25 10:36 PM ET
Seems like Whit is a great guy, but just a few steps behind the times. We
Stech • 08/19/25 07:06 PM ET
$52M/year more to get to FSU/Clemson/UNC levels.
hokieball • 08/19/25 01:56 PM ET
Easy FIND it
1947Sunbowl • 08/19/25 02:14 PM ET
Some good points/questions there. I didn't see anything in
saret • 08/19/25 06:13 PM ET
Problem is not cutting costs
1947Sunbowl • 08/19/25 09:36 PM ET
I agree with all that. Cutting costs isn't the real problem.
saret • 08/19/25 09:55 PM ET
Cost cutting......
2hhoop3 • 08/19/25 10:00 PM ET
Exactly. Better fundraising, some cost cutting, better money
saret • 08/19/25 10:15 PM ET
Interesting. Nice to see he understands his job is at risk.
VT ChemE 1986 • 08/19/25 01:00 PM ET
Yep, he should tender his resignation and take Ballein with him…..**
RJHokie • 08/19/25 05:39 PM ET
Yes he should.
Atlee Hokie • 08/19/25 05:55 PM ET