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Actually, I don't think that they should. I believe there will

be a third "P" conference, call it the ACC or the B12, I don't think it really matters at that point. Here are a few reasons I think it will be the B12: When you add up Cuse, Wake, and BC - then add up Houston, Cincy, and UCF - the difference isn't so much their athletic past, but their potential. Cincy, UCF, and Houston are public Universities, and have a larger alumni base to draw on for attendance and ratings. The rest of the ACC after the top universities go, are just as strong, give or take a bit, as the rest of the B12. Last year, the total B12 viewership ratings were better than the ACC, with the ACC having more teams, and their top brands, including ND. Granted, the ACCN numbers are no where to be found, but it is what it is. If and when (it's still an if) the ACC loses their top brands, the 2036 media contract will be a tough row to hoe. Meanwhile, back at the flyover ranch, the B12 will have a new contract around 2030, and it should reflect the addition of the 4 corners which were not included in the last negotiation. Then, in all likelihood, they will get yet another contract around 2036. I'm making the assumption that both of those contracts will be more than the current one, and 2036 is a LONG time for the ACC to wait for a new contract in this environment of change. While there are no guarantees that the B12 will eclipse the ACC in distributions, the future for the B12 looks better than the ACC, even though the ACC has a better media deal today because of the ACCN. Not a dig, just my humble opinion. I think the ACC would be much better off not backfilling with G5 schools, except maybe UCONN, but if I remember correctly, you need 15 to satisfy the contract. Maybe the ACC can entice some B12 schools, but ND would probably have to be a big part of that. The uneven distribution system is another problem for the top B12 schools. Would they come into the ACC at the top of the distribution system, and start off making more money than those at the bottom? Or at the bottom? Frankly, I'm not sure how you sell that to a Utah, the Arizona schools, or any other University that you think could be a fit. No one at the top of the ACC food chain will take a financial hit to add any school, except maybe ND as a full time football member. The uneven distribution thing may actually have a Louisville or GT looking to the B12 in 2030 if they are making less than they are today. We just don't know how that plays out. I think you are dead wrong about the PAC. I also do not think the P2 has the appetite or the money to add 6-8 universities. The football brands are FSU, Clemson, and Miami. UNC is a brand in a category by itself, not just a basketball blue blood like Duke. The top of the ACC will find a home. The middle of the ACC will find a home. The bottom 4-6 are in serious trouble, and could find themselves in a PAC for football, and the Big east for basketball - which isn't all bad. CalFord and SMU will have to find a landing spot, and your guess is as good as mine where they land. Anywhere from the BIG to the AAC. An ACC with the privates and academics adding some more academics is probably my best guess, and the ACC will survive until 2036. At that point, a lot more unknowns will be known, and all of our predictions could be all for nothing.
Posted: 07/27/2025 at 03:25 PM ET
(In response to this post by VTCALS72)

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A lot of smoke with UNC these days. Besides the obvious
Big12 guy 07/25/25 10:45 AM ET
It’s like saying “Everyone will eventuall die.”
RandomAsianGuy 07/27/25 06:19 PM ET
Nothing, NOTHING, Happens unless. or until, the P2 conferences and their
ancient alien 2018 07/27/25 08:55 PM ET
You are probably right. I wouldn't have given it
Big12 guy 07/27/25 06:29 PM ET
I don't think the SEC will expand any more without finding a way to remove
VPI_1998 07/27/25 11:04 AM ET
Don't forget power schools need several easy conference wins every year.
EDGEMAN 07/28/25 05:10 AM ET
NO P2 Conference will boot a member to take in a new member. If that were
ancient alien 2018 07/28/25 12:33 AM ET
That certainly seems logical, but it seems the easiest way to
Big12 guy 07/27/25 12:01 PM ET
Maybe uneven distro should morph into de facto relegation?
Truthahn 07/28/25 08:37 AM ET
I think both the Big 10 and SEC pause
mancunian 07/27/25 12:18 PM ET
I hope so. We need to play ball.**
Big12 guy 07/27/25 04:54 PM ET
It should be interesting to see who goes with UNC
Millpoint 07/26/25 09:27 PM ET
Question, why do you and others think the ACC must remain at 16-18
VTCALS72 07/27/25 02:31 PM ET
Doesn’t ACC’s ESPN contract require at least 14/15 teams to be valid?
Millpoint 07/27/25 06:47 PM ET
IMHO ESPN is making a lot of the calls now happening
VTCALS72 07/27/25 08:42 PM ET
Good points **
Millpoint 07/28/25 05:52 AM ET
No, bloggers who need clickbait hits and know nothing, are driving this
ancient alien 2018 07/27/25 08:59 PM ET
Yes, "FSU and Clemson to the P2 NOW!" posts no longer get clicked.
Truthahn 07/28/25 08:12 AM ET
Actually, I don't think that they should. I believe there will
Big12 guy 07/27/25 03:25 PM ET
The ACC viewership ratings most likely surpass
RJHokie 07/27/25 04:29 PM ET
Good grief!!! No one is going with UNC because they are going nowhere until
ancient alien 2018 07/26/25 09:59 PM ET
They want the brand and will pay for it. **
Millpoint 07/27/25 07:46 AM ET
The SEC contract runs through '33-'34. The exit fee currently is
Big12 guy 07/26/25 10:39 PM ET
The Big 12 exit fee is roughly half that...
SMU Pony 07/27/25 08:30 AM ET
They don't want anybody **
HokiesACC2004 07/28/25 06:47 AM ET
The B12 was already poached. The ACC is up to bat. **
Big12 guy 07/27/25 08:32 AM ET
White smoke or black smoke?**
VTHokie2000 07/25/25 11:01 AM ET
i would guess UNC football ratings will be the best in a really long time
AnotherTechW 07/25/25 11:00 AM ET
Sellouts are easier when you have less seats
Hotus 07/27/25 10:26 AM ET
reminds me of when UNC hired Mack Brown back - lots of hype, some really
VPI_1998 07/26/25 09:25 AM ET
But, that is UNC football in a nut shell. Historic blue blood basketball
Big12 guy 07/26/25 09:54 AM ET
Basketball has fewer players, fewer NIL deals to negotiate
Hotus 07/27/25 10:32 AM ET
100%**
Big12 guy 07/27/25 11:41 AM ET
Alabama, Tennessee, and Texas similar to UF
OrlandoHokie 07/26/25 03:31 PM ET
I'm a KU guy, and a short run here and there does not,
Big12 guy 07/26/25 04:53 PM ET
Agree - Alabama's first ever Final Four was last year - that is a LONG
VPI_1998 07/27/25 11:08 AM ET
Have you seen their schedule? It's an absolute joke. Worse than any VT has
ancient alien 2018 07/25/25 08:30 PM ET
One that Pry would get a 6-6 result?**
EDGEMAN 07/26/25 05:37 AM ET
If they really want ratings, put Bellicheck's GF in hot pants and...
EDGEMAN 07/25/25 07:10 PM ET
Short term football success will help, but that goes for any
Big12 guy 07/25/25 11:05 AM ET
The ACC is a short term conference going forward - win now **
AnotherTechW 07/25/25 12:33 PM ET