Basketball and football is apples and oranges.
But let's make a comparison anyway. We have 64+ teams participating in March madness. But is that really about giving all of those teams a chance to compete for a national championship, or is it about rewarding all of those teams for a good season. Every conference champion in basketball gets an automatic bid to the tournament. Why not let football conference champions have that same reward? In either case, it's not about granting them an opportunity to compete for a national championship, but it's about rewarding them for a successful season. As I said previously, in any given season for college football, there is not 16 teams capable of competing for a championship. In the same way there are not 64+ teams capable for competing for a championship in college basketball. I believe Villanova is the lowest seeded team ever to win a championship, they were an eight seed. So why do we have 64 teams in a bracket, when historically 32 teams would be sufficient. Every other team is simply being rewarded for winning a conference championship, or having a good season without winning a conference championship. Historically, they are not competing for a national championship.
In addition, as stated, football and basketball are apples and oranges. The difference between the number one ranked team in the country in football and the 10th ranked team is far greater than the difference between the number one ranked team and the number 10 ranked team in basketball. Lower ranked teams can make a run at a championship in basketball, So it's easier to justify 4th and 5th placed conference teams making the tournament. But in reality, the bottom half of the field of teams do not have a chance at winning a national championship, they're just there to add excitement in the first couple of rounds, and to reward those schools for a job well done that season. And to bring in more money.
** Edited by wwhokie1 at 6/6/2025, 6:11:53 PM
** Edited by wwhokie1 at 6/6/2025, 6:15:06 PM
Thread Replies (24)
We will eventually end up with a 4–4 – 2–2 – whatever scenario.
-- hokieZ71
Jun 06, 2025 at 07:13 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/06/25 07:13 AM ET
P2 won't go to 20. Only one school available that will bring the existing
-- PadrosWindup
Jun 07, 2025 at 12:36 PM ET
PadrosWindup
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06/07/25 12:36 PM ET
There becomes a law of diminishing returns and even a law of negative
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 08, 2025 at 02:14 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/08/25 02:14 PM ET
This "new" development has not played out yet. We only have one year as a
-- Big12 guy
Jun 08, 2025 at 07:06 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/08/25 07:06 PM ET
I think we end up with a ratings based model
-- HokieAl
Jun 06, 2025 at 11:33 AM ET
HokieAl
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06/06/25 11:33 AM ET
Let's make the P2 really mad and do a 10-6 model.
-- wwhokie1
Jun 06, 2025 at 11:23 AM ET
wwhokie1
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06/06/25 11:23 AM ET
Based on this argument, which I don't necessarily disagree with the logic,
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 06, 2025 at 03:56 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/06/25 03:56 PM ET
Basketball and football is apples and oranges.
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-- wwhokie1
Jun 06, 2025 at 06:10 PM ET
wwhokie1
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06/06/25 06:10 PM ET
As the P2s continue consolidating top tier teams, there will come a point
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 07, 2025 at 05:21 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/07/25 05:21 PM ET
I don't think it will be arranged that way.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 06, 2025 at 09:20 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/06/25 09:20 AM ET
No conference championship games. And your second point is incorrect
-- hokieZ71
Jun 06, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/06/25 11:00 AM ET
My point isn't incorrect. It's just highly unlikely. And I concede that.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 06, 2025 at 11:51 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/06/25 11:51 AM ET
If and when the P2's have 20 teams each, then there is
-- Big12 guy
Jun 06, 2025 at 08:36 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/06/25 08:36 AM ET
Yeah, definitely won't be a 4-4-4.
-- hokieZ71
Jun 06, 2025 at 08:59 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/06/25 08:59 AM ET
Honestly, until this shakes out, it is not a
-- Big12 guy
Jun 06, 2025 at 09:04 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/06/25 09:04 AM ET
I'm not making it a Big12 vs ACC thing. The Big 12 and ACC are equals.
-- hokieZ71
Jun 06, 2025 at 09:08 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/06/25 09:08 AM ET
Except the ACC makes more money, sends more schools to CFP, and has own TV**
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jun 07, 2025 at 12:32 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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06/07/25 12:32 PM ET
That and $3 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. The monies
-- Big12 guy
Jun 08, 2025 at 09:58 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/08/25 09:58 AM ET
Yeah, I've noticed that
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jun 08, 2025 at 01:07 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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06/08/25 01:07 PM ET
Not yet, but it's moving in that direction. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 06, 2025 at 09:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/06/25 09:11 AM ET
Someone get Don King on the phone so he can promote the PPV ACC vs. Big XII
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 06, 2025 at 03:47 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/06/25 03:47 PM ET
It's wishful thinking that the P2 will surrender any money or power...
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 06, 2025 at 08:48 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/06/25 08:48 AM ET
That's why they will offer 4-4-2-2
-- hokieZ71
Jun 06, 2025 at 09:07 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/06/25 09:07 AM ET