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HokieAl
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actually I think we are already getting a preview of how the ACC survives

I think we have all heard that the ACCN is profitable for ESPN. And we know that approximately 80% of these media deals is driven by football money. Now let's look at the two schools who are suing. FSU and Clemson have had the following regular season network coverage over the past two years. FSU 2023 (12-0 reg season): 8 ABC, 2 ESPN, 1 CW (North Alabama), 1 ACCN (Southern Miss) CU 2023 (8-4 reg season): 4 ABC, 2 ESPN, 1 SECN, 1 CW (NCSU), 4 ACCN (Charleston So, FAU, Wake, Miami) FSU 2022 (9-3 reg season): 5 ABC, 1 ESPN, 1 RSN (Louisiana), 5 ACCN (Duquesne, BC, NCSU, GT, Syracuse) CU 2022 (10-2 reg season): 6 ABC, 3 ESPN, 1 NBC, 2 ACCN (Furman and La Tech) FSU in 2022 was 4-3 after seven games and less interesting matchups that pushed them off the main channels. Clemson in 2023 was 4-4 after eight games, but had big enough matchups to still get main channels. The main point is that ESPN is already operating the ACCN with minimal coverage of the top teams. The big brands go to the main ABC and ESPN channels already. So even if FSU were to leave tomorrow, Clemson would still be heavily on ABC and ESPN, while the ACCN would have far more "everyone else" like it already does. In 2023 the ACC had Miami (6 ACCN games), UNC (6 ACCN, 1 CW), NCSU (4 ACCN, 4 CW), VT (7 ACCN) and so on. ACCN and CW are filled with the middle and bottom of the ACC. So if FSU leaves, the ACCN content will be the same, but ESPN can possibly pay the ACC even less for the same content.
Posted: 08/20/2024 at 05:05 PM ET
(In response to this post by WBGV)

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Don’t shoot th messenger, CBS’s Dennis Dodd,ESPN won’t renew ACC contract n
Stech 08/20/24 01:33 PM ET
I just dont see ESPN dropping the ACCN. It is profitable, generates
HboroughHokie 08/20/24 06:09 PM ET
They don’t have to drop it. They can just start a brand new contract
HokieAl 08/20/24 06:42 PM ET
I don’t either, cuz Fox or Peacock or CBS will be glad to grab it…**
ombandit 08/20/24 06:11 PM ET
Nobody else can just "grab" the ACCN if ESPN declines to extend the r'ship-
Baltimore_Hokie 08/21/24 09:23 AM ET
Wonder if Philips has started looking around for competitive bids?**
VT ChemE 1986 08/20/24 06:04 PM ET
It's not that bold a prediction. The fact it isn't already extended
HokieAl 08/20/24 03:34 PM ET
Yes, the GOR has a 2036 date for a very specific reason
VTCALS72 08/21/24 07:39 AM ET
There is no shadowy intrigue around either of the items you raise here-
Baltimore_Hokie 08/21/24 03:55 PM ET
I don't think it's a re-negotiation. It's an option to extend
SpeakToDamien 08/20/24 05:31 PM ET
The only reason these reporters can continue to make these predictions is
WBGV 08/20/24 04:08 PM ET
actually I think we are already getting a preview of how the ACC survives
HokieAl 08/20/24 05:05 PM ET
GOR likely is still enforceable regardless
SpeakToDamien 08/20/24 03:23 PM ET
NO GOR Without ESPN as the Media Provider
WarHog38 08/20/24 06:14 PM ET
The better question is (inside)
El Paso Hokie 08/20/24 11:41 PM ET
You might be right, but there is no conclusive evidence either way.**
Stech 08/20/24 07:03 PM ET
Doesn't the conference own all TV rights regardless of the carrier?
Hokester 08/20/24 03:34 PM ET
It's the best argument FSU has imo
SpeakToDamien 08/20/24 04:16 PM ET
The GOR says "expressly set forth in the ESPN Agreement”
HokieAl 08/20/24 03:38 PM ET
Seems like people that make predictions at the beginning of the new
VintonHokies 08/20/24 03:01 PM ET
Don't waste your time. Clickbait from Dennis Dud.**
ancient alien 2018 08/20/24 08:26 PM ET
You Do Have to Remember Josh Pate
WarHog38 08/20/24 02:43 PM ET
I remember him, and I don’t know if he knows anything, but CBS Sports is
Stech 08/20/24 04:07 PM ET
You mean all the same.......
2hhoop3 08/20/24 02:53 PM ET
i Think You are Throwing YouTube Nobodies in With MSM Sports Big Wigs
WarHog38 08/20/24 05:46 PM ET
The PAC12 didn't lose a TV contract mid-stride, it ended 2 months ago...
BROman Hokie 08/21/24 10:19 AM ET
Heard the PAC Over Priced Themselves Angle Before
WarHog38 08/21/24 02:36 PM ET
One must not forget that the PACN was smack dab in the middle of those
Big12 guy 08/21/24 03:09 PM ET
Kudos to you......
2hhoop3 08/20/24 06:48 PM ET
Mid Stride Considering How the B!G & SEC Get Their TV Contract Renewals**
WarHog38 08/20/24 07:03 PM ET
You will have to......
2hhoop3 08/20/24 07:28 PM ET
I Guess You First Would Need Mid Stride Better Defined
WarHog38 08/20/24 09:11 PM ET
Thanks for explanation.......
2hhoop3 08/20/24 09:26 PM ET
Click bait.**
RJHokie 08/20/24 01:40 PM ET
Probably but I have to believe both the ACC and ESPN would want to
Femoyer Hokie 08/20/24 02:14 PM ET
I don't think either are obligated to announce anything about it.
HOO86 08/20/24 05:09 PM ET
Maybe ESPN is waiting to see how the 12 team playoff shakes out...**
Two4VT 08/20/24 02:49 PM ET
The contract extension not being announced is not speculation. It's reality**
Big12 guy 08/20/24 02:18 PM ET
Yep and......
2hhoop3 08/20/24 01:51 PM ET
I don't want to get into 25 back-and-forth threads with you, but-
Baltimore_Hokie 08/20/24 02:51 PM ET
I thought you......
2hhoop3 08/20/24 02:56 PM ET
Maybe, but it’s CBS Sports, not a a basement podcaster.**
Stech 08/20/24 01:42 PM ET
Pac fans jumped all over Dodds through the whole Pac fiasco. They called
HouClone 08/20/24 02:21 PM ET
Interesting.**
Stech 08/20/24 04:00 PM ET
Different scenario there.
RJHokie 08/20/24 02:49 PM ET
Doesn’t matter.
RJHokie 08/20/24 01:50 PM ET
Yes I read the others, they were guessing on the season outcome, very
Stech 08/20/24 04:11 PM ET
Agree, but you have to realize this is all speculation and is mostly all
RJHokie 08/20/24 04:19 PM ET