and that's why I see the end state as a hybrid. NFL model for football
NBA model for basketball and regional model for all other non-rev sports. This would work best if the P2 goes big. It can't stop at 16-18. It needs to be 24+ to provide flexibility across different sports.
- NFL has two conferences with internal rivalries and a path to super bowl, 4 divisions for annual rivalries within each conference, and out of conference games between AFC and NFC for schedule variety.
- NBA has similar structure but due to more games also has series to minimize travel impacts (and reduce short one-game road trips). So the equivalent in college would be a trip for MD to play out west to play 2-3 games within a few days then get rest back home.
- And for all other sports, keep it close by as much as possible except for limited big trip travel a couple times a season as needed (if that is even possible). But the bigger the conference, the easier it becomes to focus travel on more regional options.
Thread Replies (45)
So where is all this headed eventually?
-- Marooned
Aug 02, 2023 at 07:59 AM ET
Marooned
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08/02/23 07:59 AM ET
Still think the biggest programs will form a nationwide super league…
-- Gator Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:43 PM ET
Gator Hokie
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08/02/23 02:43 PM ET
The lessers are all represented by critters in congress
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 03:05 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/02/23 03:05 PM ET
That is What History tells us
-- WarHog38
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:25 PM ET
WarHog38
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08/02/23 02:25 PM ET
I have tried to articulate this point many times. Networks are selling
-- Maroon Unit
Aug 02, 2023 at 01:52 PM ET
Maroon Unit
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08/02/23 01:52 PM ET
I've already lost interest in the P2.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:03 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/02/23 02:03 PM ET
I am certain of only one thing...
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 01:15 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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08/02/23 01:15 PM ET
thus my argument that the best course for all existing ACC members
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:24 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/02/23 02:24 PM ET
No one in power is looking out for the best interest of the sport. No one.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 02, 2023 at 01:44 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/02/23 01:44 PM ET
Much easier to whine to congress, many aggrieved parties already
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:28 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/02/23 02:28 PM ET
I think about programs that just did stadium renovation projects recently.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 02, 2023 at 03:19 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/02/23 03:19 PM ET
All CFB on one streaming platform
-- Colonel Jessup
Aug 02, 2023 at 12:31 PM ET
Colonel Jessup
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08/02/23 12:31 PM ET
Seems we are heading to a P2 world.
-- Seikoh_04
Aug 02, 2023 at 11:21 AM ET
Seikoh_04
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08/02/23 11:21 AM ET
I tend to agree. It seems the natural structure of US pro leagues. NFC AFC
-- Nelsonia Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:39 PM ET
Nelsonia Hokie
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08/02/23 02:39 PM ET
We are already on a power 2 model***
-- vtka93
Aug 02, 2023 at 12:41 PM ET
vtka93
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08/02/23 12:41 PM ET
Not really...it's really a P5, 5 schools and everyone else
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:41 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/02/23 02:41 PM ET
LSU is in the next group IMO, if they are undefeated after week 6
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 03, 2023 at 11:06 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/03/23 11:06 AM ET
Why can't P2 be operated as regional conferences?
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 12:12 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/02/23 12:12 PM ET
and that's why I see the end state as a hybrid. NFL model for football
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-- HokieAl
Aug 02, 2023 at 12:45 PM ET
HokieAl
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08/02/23 12:45 PM ET
Yeah I could see pods formed within the regional conference
-- Seikoh_04
Aug 02, 2023 at 12:30 PM ET
Seikoh_04
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08/02/23 12:30 PM ET
I doubt they stay with 4 conference champ byes after 2026.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 02, 2023 at 12:08 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/02/23 12:08 PM ET
who knows. I could see the SEC & Big Ten form some sort of merger and each
-- reestuart
Aug 02, 2023 at 08:34 AM ET
reestuart
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08/02/23 08:34 AM ET
Yeah, two 24 team conferences. What a brilliant idea to wreck the interest
-- HouClone
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:12 PM ET
HouClone
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08/02/23 02:12 PM ET
The AFC- NFC of CFB always thought we were heading there**
-- anotherdamnyankeehokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 10:41 AM ET
anotherdamnyankeehokie
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08/02/23 10:41 AM ET
Pretty much what I see happening. **
-- reestuart
Aug 02, 2023 at 11:57 AM ET
reestuart
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08/02/23 11:57 AM ET
Yes, I see some version of that as the most likely
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 09:47 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/02/23 09:47 AM ET
funny that congress is more worried about NIL than any of this. NIL doesn't
-- reestuart
Aug 02, 2023 at 09:50 AM ET
reestuart
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08/02/23 09:50 AM ET
I feel like NIL is their door into control
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 10:40 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/02/23 10:40 AM ET
Are fans going to tune into minor league football?
-- mancunian
Aug 02, 2023 at 09:45 AM ET
mancunian
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08/02/23 09:45 AM ET
Well said - what made college football really special is going away for
-- VPI_1998
Aug 02, 2023 at 12:23 PM ET
VPI_1998
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08/02/23 12:23 PM ET
maybe 2? Purdue and Rutgers? but agree that the vast majority of
-- anotherdamnyankeehokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 10:46 AM ET
anotherdamnyankeehokie
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08/02/23 10:46 AM ET
I used to watch a lot of the big games
-- RTFC
Aug 02, 2023 at 11:28 AM ET
RTFC
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08/02/23 11:28 AM ET
Well said. I agree 100%**
-- pharlap_99
Aug 02, 2023 at 09:48 PM ET
pharlap_99
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08/02/23 09:48 PM ET
It's a regional sport. The Big 10 seems to think that if the
-- mancunian
Aug 02, 2023 at 01:46 PM ET
mancunian
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08/02/23 01:46 PM ET
Ohio State-Michigan is the most watched regular season game every year
-- reestuart
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:33 PM ET
reestuart
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08/02/23 02:33 PM ET
Would anyone give a pigs ass if it disappeared though?
-- mancunian
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:52 PM ET
mancunian
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08/02/23 02:52 PM ET
When they have 15M + people watching every year, that's not going away.
-- reestuart
Aug 02, 2023 at 02:56 PM ET
reestuart
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08/02/23 02:56 PM ET
I didn’t say the game was going away.
-- mancunian
Aug 02, 2023 at 03:00 PM ET
mancunian
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08/02/23 03:00 PM ET
time will tell, but they get the TV numbers and contracts that disagree
-- reestuart
Aug 02, 2023 at 03:05 PM ET
reestuart
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08/02/23 03:05 PM ET
You would think not, but I dunno. People watch football. If it's on,
-- reestuart
Aug 02, 2023 at 09:48 AM ET
reestuart
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08/02/23 09:48 AM ET
Not sure I agree, I used to be a watch any football cause it's on type
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 02, 2023 at 09:55 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/02/23 09:55 AM ET
Yep - College Football was grass roots, NFL astro-turf
-- VPI_1998
Aug 02, 2023 at 12:27 PM ET
VPI_1998
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08/02/23 12:27 PM ET
yeah, I could see it either way. I feel the numbers would still be there
-- reestuart
Aug 02, 2023 at 10:15 AM ET
reestuart
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08/02/23 10:15 AM ET
I've been cfb diehard for 35 years but last few I've leaned to the nfl.
-- pharlap_99
Aug 02, 2023 at 09:40 PM ET
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08/02/23 09:40 PM ET