We also had a lot of very valuable allies/connections within ACC back then
John Casteen (president of UVa) was apparently always in our corner and voted consistently throughout the internal ACC expansion process.
Wayne Clough was president of Georgia Tech and Dave Braine was the AD there. Both had deep roots in Blacksburg (Clough as a longtime faculty member and Braine as our prior AD). I don't have a lot of inside information to back this up, but I strongly suspect that the two of them also did a lot of heavy lifting for us behind the scenes.
We also had academic partnerships with Maryland and Wake Forest that may not have had direct benefit on the athletic side, but they certainly didn't hurt.
Duke and UNC apparently were never in support of us, but their absolute opposition to expansion of any kind made John Casteen's position valuable enough to keep our options open. My opinion is that Steger, Weaver, and everyone involved from our side played the cards that they were dealt in the best possible way and ultimately it became a situation where ACC expansion simply couldn't happen without us.
Completely different world today, of course.
Thread Replies (20)
Conference Realignment history question (re: VT, ACC, SEC 2003)
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 23, 2022 at 06:57 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/23/22 06:57 PM ET
In 2003 w/ the addition of Miami and VT, the ACC in my opinion was...
-- VPIVIP95
Aug 24, 2022 at 10:16 AM ET
VPIVIP95
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08/24/22 10:16 AM ET
I knew a few players on the team back than - they were being told that if
-- 133193Hokie
Aug 24, 2022 at 08:27 AM ET
133193Hokie
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08/24/22 08:27 AM ET
Who were the people deciding things
-- WarHog38
Aug 24, 2022 at 02:01 AM ET
WarHog38
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08/24/22 02:01 AM ET
No knowledge, just opinion. I think VT panicked
-- HokieAl
Aug 23, 2022 at 09:40 PM ET
HokieAl
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08/23/22 09:40 PM ET
I think VT wanted to join the ACC really bad.
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 24, 2022 at 09:04 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/24/22 09:04 AM ET
We also had a lot of very valuable allies/connections within ACC back then
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-- Hokie Fiji
Aug 24, 2022 at 10:19 AM ET
Hokie Fiji
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08/24/22 10:19 AM ET
VT had wanted the ACC for decades.
-- mancunian
Aug 24, 2022 at 10:06 AM ET
mancunian
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08/24/22 10:06 AM ET
Just think...the reason VPI was left out initially is because our president
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 24, 2022 at 10:50 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/24/22 10:50 AM ET
If your Conference is breaking up, you contact all the potential players.**
-- Stech
Aug 23, 2022 at 07:21 PM ET
Stech
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08/23/22 07:21 PM ET
You would think. But do we know?**
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 23, 2022 at 07:41 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/23/22 07:41 PM ET
No one is going to admit it, but nobody is dumb enough to not to do it.
-- Stech
Aug 23, 2022 at 08:13 PM ET
Stech
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08/23/22 08:13 PM ET
If not, that would be a tremendous dereliction of duty.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 23, 2022 at 07:43 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/23/22 07:43 PM ET
well if you recall....after the ACC announced the bc cuse Miami thing
-- Vippie1
Aug 24, 2022 at 02:36 PM ET
Vippie1
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08/24/22 02:36 PM ET
The SEC got interested in Tech
-- Sunsetunderground
Aug 23, 2022 at 07:54 PM ET
Sunsetunderground
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08/23/22 07:54 PM ET
LSU game when Saban was the Coach and Mike was gone didn't hurt either. The
-- Stech
Aug 23, 2022 at 08:36 PM ET
Stech
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08/23/22 08:36 PM ET
I'll never forget LSU fans
-- Sunsetunderground
Aug 23, 2022 at 08:51 PM ET
Sunsetunderground
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08/23/22 08:51 PM ET
They were professional tailgating travel fans!
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 24, 2022 at 09:06 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/24/22 09:06 AM ET