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That certainly seems logical, but it seems the easiest way to

get rid of the lower producing schools is the PAC model. Texas didn't join the SEC so that they could play Mississippi State. There is a consolidation of the top football brands for television revenue. I don't think that is finished yet, at any level. The ACC has survived so far because of lawsuits and the question of who owns the media rights. The settlement seemed to have quieted things down, and the football brands appeared to be satisfied with the uneven distribution system that was drawn up. I think kicking schools out of a conference may be more difficult than starting a new conference as has been discussed with the mag 7. There is a $165M exit fee for the ACC currently. I don't believe there is an exit fee for the SEC, but I really haven't looked it up. How much would the SEC pay to get rid of the lower (few) schools? How much would the ACC pay? That can go for any conference. The B12 was in the right place at the right time to pick up the 4 corners. They were there because neither the ACC or PAC finished off the B12 when they had the opportunity. Who would they kick out, or buy out? The top brands not in the P2 will go if there is an offer. Currently, the top brands reside in the ACC, as every school in the current B12 has been vetted, and rejected by the P2. You might be right that the SEC is satisfied, as there just aren't many that rise up to the Texas level - but that is just my opinion. Those writing the checks may see things differently.
Posted: 07/27/2025 at 12:01 PM ET
(In response to this post by VPI_1998)

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A lot of smoke with UNC these days. Besides the obvious
Big12 guy 07/25/25 10:45 AM ET
It’s like saying “Everyone will eventuall die.”
RandomAsianGuy 07/27/25 06:19 PM ET
Nothing, NOTHING, Happens unless. or until, the P2 conferences and their
ancient alien 2018 07/27/25 08:55 PM ET
You are probably right. I wouldn't have given it
Big12 guy 07/27/25 06:29 PM ET
I don't think the SEC will expand any more without finding a way to remove
VPI_1998 07/27/25 11:04 AM ET
Don't forget power schools need several easy conference wins every year.
EDGEMAN 07/28/25 05:10 AM ET
NO P2 Conference will boot a member to take in a new member. If that were
ancient alien 2018 07/28/25 12:33 AM ET
That certainly seems logical, but it seems the easiest way to
Big12 guy 07/27/25 12:01 PM ET
Maybe uneven distro should morph into de facto relegation?
Truthahn 07/28/25 08:37 AM ET
I think both the Big 10 and SEC pause
mancunian 07/27/25 12:18 PM ET
I hope so. We need to play ball.**
Big12 guy 07/27/25 04:54 PM ET
It should be interesting to see who goes with UNC
Millpoint 07/26/25 09:27 PM ET
Question, why do you and others think the ACC must remain at 16-18
VTCALS72 07/27/25 02:31 PM ET
Doesn’t ACC’s ESPN contract require at least 14/15 teams to be valid?
Millpoint 07/27/25 06:47 PM ET
IMHO ESPN is making a lot of the calls now happening
VTCALS72 07/27/25 08:42 PM ET
Good points **
Millpoint 07/28/25 05:52 AM ET
No, bloggers who need clickbait hits and know nothing, are driving this
ancient alien 2018 07/27/25 08:59 PM ET
Yes, "FSU and Clemson to the P2 NOW!" posts no longer get clicked.
Truthahn 07/28/25 08:12 AM ET
Actually, I don't think that they should. I believe there will
Big12 guy 07/27/25 03:25 PM ET
The ACC viewership ratings most likely surpass
RJHokie 07/27/25 04:29 PM ET
Good grief!!! No one is going with UNC because they are going nowhere until
ancient alien 2018 07/26/25 09:59 PM ET
They want the brand and will pay for it. **
Millpoint 07/27/25 07:46 AM ET
The SEC contract runs through '33-'34. The exit fee currently is
Big12 guy 07/26/25 10:39 PM ET
The Big 12 exit fee is roughly half that...
SMU Pony 07/27/25 08:30 AM ET
They don't want anybody **
HokiesACC2004 07/28/25 06:47 AM ET
The B12 was already poached. The ACC is up to bat. **
Big12 guy 07/27/25 08:32 AM ET
White smoke or black smoke?**
VTHokie2000 07/25/25 11:01 AM ET
i would guess UNC football ratings will be the best in a really long time
AnotherTechW 07/25/25 11:00 AM ET
Sellouts are easier when you have less seats
Hotus 07/27/25 10:26 AM ET
reminds me of when UNC hired Mack Brown back - lots of hype, some really
VPI_1998 07/26/25 09:25 AM ET
But, that is UNC football in a nut shell. Historic blue blood basketball
Big12 guy 07/26/25 09:54 AM ET
Basketball has fewer players, fewer NIL deals to negotiate
Hotus 07/27/25 10:32 AM ET
100%**
Big12 guy 07/27/25 11:41 AM ET
Alabama, Tennessee, and Texas similar to UF
OrlandoHokie 07/26/25 03:31 PM ET
I'm a KU guy, and a short run here and there does not,
Big12 guy 07/26/25 04:53 PM ET
Agree - Alabama's first ever Final Four was last year - that is a LONG
VPI_1998 07/27/25 11:08 AM ET
Have you seen their schedule? It's an absolute joke. Worse than any VT has
ancient alien 2018 07/25/25 08:30 PM ET
One that Pry would get a 6-6 result?**
EDGEMAN 07/26/25 05:37 AM ET
If they really want ratings, put Bellicheck's GF in hot pants and...
EDGEMAN 07/25/25 07:10 PM ET
Short term football success will help, but that goes for any
Big12 guy 07/25/25 11:05 AM ET
The ACC is a short term conference going forward - win now **
AnotherTechW 07/25/25 12:33 PM ET