Playing 9 conference games vs. 8 would hurt ANYBODY, not just the SEC.
If you play an additional conference game, someone has to get an additional conference loss. It's simple math. The difference with the SEC is that none of those teams think they should ever lose, and when they do lose, they think it shouldn't count.
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Not just me saying it, Ross Dellenger 5+11 gaining if Selection Criteria ⬆️
-- Stech
Jun 01, 2025 at 05:07 PM ET
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06/01/25 05:07 PM ET
9 game schedule hurts the SEC
-- mjfhokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:40 AM ET
mjfhokie
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06/02/25 10:40 AM ET
I’ll reframe this. SEC wants BIG money but with fewer games
-- HokieAl
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:08 AM ET
HokieAl
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06/02/25 11:08 AM ET
What do you expect? The SEC is like a spoiled child that has been given-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:29 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 11:29 AM ET
Playing 9 conference games vs. 8 would hurt ANYBODY, not just the SEC.
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-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:54 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 10:54 AM ET
It'll only hurt them if they don't improve SOS points (high ranked wins)!
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:51 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 10:51 AM ET
Question, on your point:
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:01 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 11:01 AM ET
Note Penn States OOC schedule this year, and
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:42 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 11:42 AM ET
Schedule highly ranked programs and you get a say in that, VT should act
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:11 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 11:11 AM ET
I am not blaming ND, I am blaming the ACC, we just simply lack leadership
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 04:04 PM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 04:04 PM ET
Has the ACC ever had quality leadership?**
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 04:08 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 04:08 PM ET
For Basketball and Olympic sports, yes, for football....**
-- Stech
Jun 03, 2025 at 12:39 AM ET
Stech
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06/03/25 12:39 AM ET
VT can't make Tennessee, Alabama, and LSU schedule home and homes.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:12 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 11:12 AM ET
It isn't difficult to improve upon Liberty, JMU, ODU and Wofford, et al.
-- Femoyer Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 04:52 PM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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06/02/25 04:52 PM ET
Agree 100%. Not the point of my post, tho.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 03, 2025 at 09:14 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/03/25 09:14 AM ET
I'm from the school of thought that a VT scheduling
-- Big12 guy
Jun 03, 2025 at 11:19 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/03/25 11:19 AM ET
Other than money, that’s correct.
-- RJHokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 05:12 PM ET
RJHokie
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06/02/25 05:12 PM ET
We don't need schools like that. Schedule WVU and other Big12 schools.
-- Femoyer Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 05:29 PM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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06/02/25 05:29 PM ET
Everyone should be sick of the "VT is operating in abject poverty, and-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 03, 2025 at 09:17 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/03/25 09:17 AM ET
You just mentioned teams that we have played, but stop making excuses.
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:21 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 11:21 AM ET
So play some neutral site, but we can OOC ACC games and B12 games, it's not
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:43 PM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 01:43 PM ET
I didn't say VT can't improve its schedule. The schedule is doo doo.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:27 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 11:27 AM ET
Since most ACC schools, and probably all B12 schools can
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 11:53 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 11:53 AM ET
While I like your idea because it would be fun to see college football
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 12:16 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 12:16 PM ET
Do the home games by conference, not by the school. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 12:29 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 12:29 PM ET
Given the way the media contracts are written, I don't think the networks
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:12 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 01:12 PM ET
Year to year it would be the top schools playing
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 01:22 PM ET
It matters what stadium the game is played in unless the conferences
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:40 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 01:40 PM ET
I don't think a comparison to basketball works. Also, you
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:43 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 01:43 PM ET
Except it won't be neutral because schools have already been adjusting
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 02:22 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 02:22 PM ET
Maybe VT adjusts their pricing, others do not. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 02:45 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 02:45 PM ET
I suspect most schools adjust their pricing at some level. Particularly if
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 03:41 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 03:41 PM ET
I would be surprised if there is any DI-FBS school who sticks with their
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 04:30 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 04:30 PM ET
No doubt with the stadiums that are not sold
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 04:39 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 04:39 PM ET
You buy VT season tickets in a package, but you can rest assured that-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 03, 2025 at 09:20 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/03/25 09:20 AM ET
Interesting. Do you think that VT would fill their stadium no matter
-- Big12 guy
Jun 03, 2025 at 09:33 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/03/25 09:33 AM ET
The easy answer is no. Because they haven't been selling out every game.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 03, 2025 at 09:46 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/03/25 09:46 AM ET
Well, the aftermarket for KU was me, or others giving
-- Big12 guy
Jun 03, 2025 at 10:09 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/03/25 10:09 AM ET
Yes. The big difference at VT is VT FB sucks now and it's not exciting.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 03, 2025 at 10:19 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/03/25 10:19 AM ET
I followed VT back in the Big East days pretty closely. Back then, I
-- Big12 guy
Jun 03, 2025 at 10:28 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/03/25 10:28 AM ET
The prime Big East Football Conference days were on another level.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 03, 2025 at 10:48 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/03/25 10:48 AM ET
I was there, and I was watching. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 03, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/03/25 11:00 AM ET
I think this would be great for both conferences.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 12:06 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 12:06 PM ET
This means strength of schedule will be a key selection factor
-- HokieAl
Jun 01, 2025 at 10:59 PM ET
HokieAl
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06/01/25 10:59 PM ET
Bingo! The ACC and the Big 12 may receive a single bid in most years.**
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jun 02, 2025 at 12:18 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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06/02/25 12:18 PM ET
If this is the way, and that's fine, then ACC and Big 12 should demand-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 09:56 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 09:56 AM ET
The ACC will not be able to "legislate" the inherent
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 12:01 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 12:01 PM ET
If everyone agrees on objective criteria, that begins application in Nov.-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 12:09 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 12:09 PM ET
Agree, it’s progress, but not perfect.**
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 06:47 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 06:47 AM ET
Agree about the basketball - it's the one thing about men's college BBall
-- VPI_1998
Jun 02, 2025 at 05:38 AM ET
VPI_1998
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06/02/25 05:38 AM ET
Rankings criteria should be about the rankings after the season is over,
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 07:44 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 07:44 AM ET
A 6-4-6 will solve everyone's concerns.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 01, 2025 at 05:30 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/01/25 05:30 PM ET
If they want to do play in games so badly, I don't know why everyone can't-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:02 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 10:02 AM ET
I see the play-in games as OUTSIDE of the conference, this would include ND
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:29 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/02/25 10:29 AM ET
If they're going to do that, why not just expand the CFP field?
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:32 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 10:32 AM ET
We are effectively talking about the same thing. However, I form it the way
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:42 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/02/25 10:42 AM ET
Not if the P conferences get more money, not less. Remember, the
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 12:42 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 12:42 PM ET
I don't disagree with you, but the conferences (read: SEC) isn't ready to
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:14 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/02/25 01:14 PM ET
Agree. Disney/FOX/CBS/NBC don't care what you call a game, they care about-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:05 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 01:05 PM ET
Realistically the P2 won’t take that few bids, at this point 5+11 is the
-- Stech
Jun 01, 2025 at 05:41 PM ET
Stech
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06/01/25 05:41 PM ET
In the scenario, the P2 could win 10 of the 16 bids.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 01, 2025 at 07:30 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/01/25 07:30 PM ET
The B1G is the one heavy on 8 Automatic Bids for P2, but SEC needs 9 Conf
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 07:27 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 07:27 AM ET
A WVU series should be home-home-neutral. Not neutral every year.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:07 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 10:07 AM ET
Neutral games suck unless it's a one off, or Bristol. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 12:45 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 12:45 PM ET
They have their utility, but a septic, neutral site game is never going-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:04 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 01:04 PM ET
Based on that criteria, it would be interesting to see if the Red River
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:22 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 01:22 PM ET
I think so, don't you?
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:26 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 01:26 PM ET
I'm not sure. At least I think it is possible any improvement may be
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 01:48 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 01:48 PM ET
I meant the in-person experience, as opposed to watching on TV.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 02:30 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 02:30 PM ET
I attended the USC game at FedEx and I am not sure my experience would have
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2025 at 03:46 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/25 03:46 PM ET
Well, cool, I'm glad you had a great time!
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 03, 2025 at 09:22 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/03/25 09:22 AM ET
What I enjoyed most about the game is it gave Hokie fans a taste of what
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 04, 2025 at 01:40 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/04/25 01:40 PM ET
They have to justify their money grab of the playoffs. they can't
-- Big12 guy
Jun 01, 2025 at 08:23 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/01/25 08:23 PM ET
5-11 is much better than 4-4-2-2-1. But again we need to watch the B10.**
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jun 01, 2025 at 05:14 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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06/01/25 05:14 PM ET
Yeah, but B1G has indicated if the SEC goes to 9 Conference games, they are
-- Stech
Jun 01, 2025 at 05:17 PM ET
Stech
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06/01/25 05:17 PM ET
Maybe. But I don’t trust the B10. They may come up with a new lame reason. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jun 01, 2025 at 10:44 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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06/01/25 10:44 PM ET
It’s hard to trust either Power Ego Conferences, understandable.**
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 06:46 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 06:46 AM ET
The SEC wants 5+11 and to stay at 8 games. Not sure the B1G is going to
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 01, 2025 at 05:23 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/01/25 05:23 PM ET
It’s all changing, they will likely go to 9 with highest ranked wins
-- Stech
Jun 01, 2025 at 05:27 PM ET
Stech
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06/01/25 05:27 PM ET
It's the easiest way for the SEC to get more teams into the playoff
-- VPI_1998
Jun 02, 2025 at 05:49 AM ET
VPI_1998
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06/02/25 05:49 AM ET
This is why the ACC and Big 12 should call their bluff and insist upon-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 02, 2025 at 10:14 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/02/25 10:14 AM ET
This is partially true. The whole idea of going
-- Big12 guy
Jun 02, 2025 at 07:13 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/02/25 07:13 AM ET
They will work it for sure, but 8 automatic bids of 16 is despicable!**
-- Stech
Jun 02, 2025 at 06:58 AM ET
Stech
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06/02/25 06:58 AM ET