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VPI_1998

Agree about the basketball - it's the one thing about men's college BBall

that I really disliked was the whole "strength of schedule" criteria that kept VT out of the tourney for years when they were just as good as 40 of the other teams in the tourney. I don't care what formulas or metrics are used - it can be super subjective and if you start out with 70% of your conferences teams ranked in the top 25 like the SEC did in basketball this past year, odds are an SEC will win the tourney like this year because the tourney will be loaded with SEC teams.
Posted: 06/02/2025 at 05:38 AM ET
(In response to this post by HokieAl)

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Not just me saying it, Ross Dellenger 5+11 gaining if Selection Criteria ⬆️
Stech • 06/01/25 05:07 PM ET
9 game schedule hurts the SEC
mjfhokie • 06/02/25 10:40 AM ET
I’ll reframe this. SEC wants BIG money but with fewer games
HokieAl • 06/02/25 11:08 AM ET
What do you expect? The SEC is like a spoiled child that has been given-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 11:29 AM ET
Playing 9 conference games vs. 8 would hurt ANYBODY, not just the SEC.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 10:54 AM ET
It'll only hurt them if they don't improve SOS points (high ranked wins)!
Stech • 06/02/25 10:51 AM ET
Question, on your point:
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 11:01 AM ET
Note Penn States OOC schedule this year, and
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 11:42 AM ET
Schedule highly ranked programs and you get a say in that, VT should act
Stech • 06/02/25 11:11 AM ET
The ACC is using ND ...
TerryD • 06/02/25 01:57 PM ET
I am not blaming ND, I am blaming the ACC, we just simply lack leadership
Stech • 06/02/25 04:04 PM ET
Has the ACC ever had quality leadership?**
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 04:08 PM ET
For Basketball and Olympic sports, yes, for football....**
Stech • 06/03/25 12:39 AM ET
VT can't make Tennessee, Alabama, and LSU schedule home and homes.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 11:12 AM ET
It isn't difficult to improve upon Liberty, JMU, ODU and Wofford, et al.
Femoyer Hokie • 06/02/25 04:52 PM ET
Agree 100%. Not the point of my post, tho.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/03/25 09:14 AM ET
I'm from the school of thought that a VT scheduling
Big12 guy • 06/03/25 11:19 AM ET
Other than money, that’s correct.
RJHokie • 06/02/25 05:12 PM ET
We don't need schools like that. Schedule WVU and other Big12 schools.
Femoyer Hokie • 06/02/25 05:29 PM ET
Everyone should be sick of the "VT is operating in abject poverty, and-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/03/25 09:17 AM ET
Agree.
RJHokie • 06/02/25 05:36 PM ET
Likely, all of them. **
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 05:57 PM ET
You just mentioned teams that we have played, but stop making excuses.
Stech • 06/02/25 11:21 AM ET
He mentioned home and homes
HokieAl • 06/02/25 11:37 AM ET
So play some neutral site, but we can OOC ACC games and B12 games, it's not
Stech • 06/02/25 01:43 PM ET
I didn't say VT can't improve its schedule. The schedule is doo doo.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 11:27 AM ET
Since most ACC schools, and probably all B12 schools can
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 11:53 AM ET
While I like your idea because it would be fun to see college football
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 12:16 PM ET
Do the home games by conference, not by the school. **
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 12:29 PM ET
Given the way the media contracts are written, I don't think the networks
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 01:12 PM ET
Year to year it would be the top schools playing
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 01:22 PM ET
It matters what stadium the game is played in unless the conferences
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 01:40 PM ET
I don't think a comparison to basketball works. Also, you
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 01:43 PM ET
Except it won't be neutral because schools have already been adjusting
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 02:22 PM ET
Maybe VT adjusts their pricing, others do not. **
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 02:45 PM ET
I suspect most schools adjust their pricing at some level. Particularly if
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 03:41 PM ET
The G5's do for sure. **
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 04:19 PM ET
I would be surprised if there is any DI-FBS school who sticks with their
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 04:30 PM ET
No doubt with the stadiums that are not sold
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 04:39 PM ET
You buy VT season tickets in a package, but you can rest assured that-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/03/25 09:20 AM ET
Interesting. Do you think that VT would fill their stadium no matter
Big12 guy • 06/03/25 09:33 AM ET
The easy answer is no. Because they haven't been selling out every game.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/03/25 09:46 AM ET
Well, the aftermarket for KU was me, or others giving
Big12 guy • 06/03/25 10:09 AM ET
Yes. The big difference at VT is VT FB sucks now and it's not exciting.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/03/25 10:19 AM ET
I followed VT back in the Big East days pretty closely. Back then, I
Big12 guy • 06/03/25 10:28 AM ET
The prime Big East Football Conference days were on another level.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/03/25 10:48 AM ET
I was there, and I was watching. **
Big12 guy • 06/03/25 11:00 AM ET
I think this would be great for both conferences.**
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 12:06 PM ET
This means strength of schedule will be a key selection factor
HokieAl • 06/01/25 10:59 PM ET
Bingo! The ACC and the Big 12 may receive a single bid in most years.**
RandomAsianGuy • 06/02/25 12:18 PM ET
If this is the way, and that's fine, then ACC and Big 12 should demand-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 09:56 AM ET
The ACC will not be able to "legislate" the inherent
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 12:01 PM ET
If everyone agrees on objective criteria, that begins application in Nov.-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 12:09 PM ET
Agree, it’s progress, but not perfect.**
Stech • 06/02/25 06:47 AM ET
Agree about the basketball - it's the one thing about men's college BBall ◄
VPI_1998 • 06/02/25 05:38 AM ET
Rankings criteria should be about the rankings after the season is over,
Stech • 06/02/25 07:44 AM ET
A 6-4-6 will solve everyone's concerns.
Maroon Baboon • 06/01/25 05:30 PM ET
If they want to do play in games so badly, I don't know why everyone can't-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 10:02 AM ET
I see the play-in games as OUTSIDE of the conference, this would include ND
Maroon Baboon • 06/02/25 10:29 AM ET
If they're going to do that, why not just expand the CFP field?
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 10:32 AM ET
We are effectively talking about the same thing. However, I form it the way
Maroon Baboon • 06/02/25 10:42 AM ET
Not if the P conferences get more money, not less. Remember, the
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 12:42 PM ET
I don't disagree with you, but the conferences (read: SEC) isn't ready to
Maroon Baboon • 06/02/25 01:14 PM ET
Agree. Disney/FOX/CBS/NBC don't care what you call a game, they care about-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 01:05 PM ET
Realistically the P2 won’t take that few bids, at this point 5+11 is the
Stech • 06/01/25 05:41 PM ET
In the scenario, the P2 could win 10 of the 16 bids.
Maroon Baboon • 06/01/25 07:30 PM ET
The B1G is the one heavy on 8 Automatic Bids for P2, but SEC needs 9 Conf
Stech • 06/02/25 07:27 AM ET
A WVU series should be home-home-neutral. Not neutral every year.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 10:07 AM ET
Neutral games suck unless it's a one off, or Bristol. **
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 12:45 PM ET
They have their utility, but a septic, neutral site game is never going-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 01:04 PM ET
Based on that criteria, it would be interesting to see if the Red River
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 01:22 PM ET
I think so, don't you?
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 01:26 PM ET
I'm not sure. At least I think it is possible any improvement may be
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 01:48 PM ET
I meant the in-person experience, as opposed to watching on TV.
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 02:30 PM ET
I attended the USC game at FedEx and I am not sure my experience would have
VTHokie2000 • 06/02/25 03:46 PM ET
Well, cool, I'm glad you had a great time!
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/03/25 09:22 AM ET
What I enjoyed most about the game is it gave Hokie fans a taste of what
VTHokie2000 • 06/04/25 01:40 PM ET
They have to justify their money grab of the playoffs. they can't
Big12 guy • 06/01/25 08:23 PM ET
5-11 is much better than 4-4-2-2-1. But again we need to watch the B10.**
RandomAsianGuy • 06/01/25 05:14 PM ET
Yeah, but B1G has indicated if the SEC goes to 9 Conference games, they are
Stech • 06/01/25 05:17 PM ET
Maybe. But I don’t trust the B10. They may come up with a new lame reason. **
RandomAsianGuy • 06/01/25 10:44 PM ET
It’s hard to trust either Power Ego Conferences, understandable.**
Stech • 06/02/25 06:46 AM ET
The SEC wants 5+11 and to stay at 8 games. Not sure the B1G is going to
Maroon Baboon • 06/01/25 05:23 PM ET
It’s all changing, they will likely go to 9 with highest ranked wins
Stech • 06/01/25 05:27 PM ET
It's the easiest way for the SEC to get more teams into the playoff
VPI_1998 • 06/02/25 05:49 AM ET
This is why the ACC and Big 12 should call their bluff and insist upon-
Baltimore_Hokie • 06/02/25 10:14 AM ET
This is partially true. The whole idea of going
Big12 guy • 06/02/25 07:13 AM ET
They will work it for sure, but 8 automatic bids of 16 is despicable!**
Stech • 06/02/25 06:58 AM ET