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HokieAl
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I feel like FSU doesn't deserve being a "brand" based on recent past

They have had a bigger fall than VT compared to the past glory years. They had a good run with Jimbo Fisher, but look at what they have done since 2017. Over 8 seasons, 5 of them have ended in losing records. They have only played for the ACC championship one time. They have not made the playoff in the old or new format. And they finished dead last in an expanded ACC last year. FSU is the classic example of coasting on past glory and getting propped up by the media based on that in order to generate viewers for games.
Posted: 05/22/2025 at 04:17 PM ET
(In response to this post by HouClone)

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ACC 4 playoff Bid Possibility?
Sunsetunderground 05/22/25 12:48 PM ET
Any such grouping should break up the Carolina mafia. Send one south
IB4TECH 05/22/25 08:09 PM ET
Merger of ACC & B12 4 most schools would be smart, so it won't happen, EGOS
Stech 05/22/25 07:48 PM ET
4 should be the expectation, provided FSU, Clemson, and others stick around**
HouClone 05/22/25 01:25 PM ET
I feel like FSU doesn't deserve being a "brand" based on recent past
HokieAl 05/22/25 04:17 PM ET
But that does not matter in "brands"
VTCALS72 05/23/25 09:32 AM ET
Why should VT even field a football team, then?
Baltimore_Hokie 05/23/25 02:17 PM ET
Because there can be a lot of good football
VTCALS72 05/23/25 07:26 PM ET
They should play where they have an actual opportunity to compete.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/25/25 11:04 AM ET
I’ve stated many times on this board that
VPI 1924 05/23/25 04:59 PM ET
yeah, 2 winning records in 7 years is pretty turrible.
reestuart 05/22/25 04:32 PM ET
This is why it was 100% stupid for the ACC to implement ratings-based-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/22/25 04:29 PM ET
Brand bonuses might work out OK for the ACC, IMO.
Truthahn 05/23/25 11:08 AM ET
The only thing it helps is the same schools making all the money-
Baltimore_Hokie 05/23/25 11:50 AM ET
They are here now, and you see the media contract and the playoff revenue. **
Big12 guy 05/22/25 01:26 PM ET
If there is a third "P", no matter what you might call it,
Big12 guy 05/22/25 01:25 PM ET
I'd rather divide both the ACC and the B12 into four regional conferences
Truthahn 05/23/25 12:18 PM ET
I'd be OK with that, bit put it at 4 or 5 team pods
Big12 guy 05/23/25 01:20 PM ET
Is TCU really any more deserving than SMU?**
tarheelblue 05/22/25 04:55 PM ET
Probably not. **
Big12 guy 05/22/25 05:03 PM ET