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HokieAl
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And they were not interested in the acc

So it doesn’t matter. That same article says that an ACC administrator thinks Cal and Stanford are good brands. For football expansion, that view is absurd. The acc was late as usual and ineffective and uncreative. The reality that Oregon and Washington realized was that the acc was capped for value and internally unstable. And the value that exists today will vanish quickly when FSU and Clemson leave. Did you know that the top G5 media revenue for 23/24 was UCF at $13 m? The second highest G5 team was Boise State at $5 m. If/when the ACC drops down to G5 quality and status, the media contract will drop like a rock to reflect that new reality. 2036 might be a decade away, but that could be a hard end to the acc status if the top teams are gone.
Posted: 04/21/2025 at 07:42 PM ET
(In response to this post by RandomAsianGuy)

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The ACC had originally targeted OREGON, WASHINGTON, Stanford and Cal
RandomAsianGuy • 04/21/25 06:54 PM ET
Not getting Utah, both AZ schools with Stan and Cal was mistake. If possibl**
MrFantastic! • 04/23/25 10:38 AM ET
Arizona really wanted to be in the B12, even before the PAC was in
Big12 guy • 04/23/25 12:00 PM ET
and I targeted Brook Shields as a gf, when I was in high school LOL**
MrBayAreaHokie • 04/22/25 04:50 PM ET
I assumed they were invited to keep them from the ACC, mostly.
Truthahn • 04/22/25 11:10 AM ET
I don't follow
Pylons • 04/23/25 11:48 AM ET
If Oregon was in the ACC last year ...
Truthahn • 04/23/25 12:34 PM ET
No differently than they felt about USC and UCLA with Oregon in the B1G
Pylons • 04/23/25 12:51 PM ET
Its probably been a LONG time since the B10 felt threatened by the ACC.
HokieNoVA • 04/23/25 10:06 AM ET
It is interesting that neither P2 has touched the Rockies and Southwest.
Maroon Baboon • 04/23/25 09:46 AM ET
They will not dilute their payouts no matter how much sense it makes. **
Big12 guy • 04/23/25 09:52 AM ET
I doubt the Big Ten ever considered that as an issue. The bigger risk
reestuart • 04/22/25 01:53 PM ET
The next dominoes.....
2hhoop3 • 04/22/25 02:11 PM ET
You might be right. I've seen that theory before.**
RandomAsianGuy • 04/22/25 12:59 PM ET
Do you remember Kevin Warren’s epic grandstanding speech about equity, then
Maroon Baboon • 04/21/25 09:53 PM ET
Warren thought he would bag ND after getting USC
TerryD • 04/22/25 11:10 PM ET
The latest is that USC's schedule will become so tough in the B1G that they
Maroon Baboon • 04/23/25 12:08 AM ET
Yep, he said that ND was "on the clock" and would join by October, 2022
TerryD • 04/23/25 07:36 AM ET
It's like the Coyote and the Roadrunner.
Maroon Baboon • 04/23/25 09:34 AM ET
And the ACC is Slowpoke Rodriguez.**
Truthahn • 04/25/25 01:38 PM ET
Accurate 😭**
Maroon Baboon • 04/25/25 03:01 PM ET
The Big Ten should have not rejected ND in 1908, 1909 and 1924
TerryD • 04/23/25 06:27 PM ET
LOL. That is grudge I can respect.**
Truthahn • 04/25/25 01:39 PM ET
IMO ND's position......
2hhoop3 • 04/23/25 07:51 AM ET
ND is in a position to remain indy indefinitely...
mancunian • 04/23/25 10:42 AM ET
That boat was never built
TerryD • 04/25/25 09:54 AM ET
The Big 10 leadership is beneath contempt.**
mancunian • 04/22/25 02:22 PM ET
And Phillips foolishly signed up for the "ALLIANCE". Never trust the B10.**
RandomAsianGuy • 04/22/25 01:39 PM ET
What were the.....
2hhoop3 • 04/22/25 01:44 PM ET
He likes to throw bovine feces up against the wall in here and see if it
ancient alien 2018 • 04/23/25 12:17 AM ET
I agree with everyone below. The academic side complicated everything
HokieAl • 04/22/25 03:52 PM ET
The alliance not letting the BigXII be part of it was beyond petty.
Maroon Baboon • 04/22/25 03:18 PM ET
I do not believe.....
2hhoop3 • 04/22/25 03:52 PM ET
I like this take. The B12 was considered broken back then.
Truthahn • 04/25/25 02:18 PM ET
My personal opinion
RandomAsianGuy • 04/22/25 02:02 PM ET
It only took a couple of months to see that Alliance was not serious.
Truthahn • 04/25/25 02:10 PM ET
The B1G used the......
2hhoop3 • 04/22/25 02:49 PM ET
Well, I disagree. The Pac-12's demise had an impact on the ACC.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/22/25 05:43 PM ET
I acknowledged the......
2hhoop3 • 04/22/25 06:47 PM ET
No the Pac 12 would still lose schools to the B10.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/22/25 10:55 PM ET
I see it differently........
2hhoop3 • 04/23/25 07:14 AM ET
Not sure I am following you.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/23/25 01:02 PM ET
You think Oregon and UW......
2hhoop3 • 04/23/25 01:22 PM ET
Umm…the B10 took away USC and UCLA when the Pac 12 was viable.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/23/25 01:34 PM ET
Actually it was already imploding.......
2hhoop3 • 04/23/25 01:38 PM ET
Something i can wholeheartedly agree with. The PAC
Big12 guy • 04/22/25 02:48 PM ET
The ACC lost its academic cred when it added Louisville.**
Hokester • 04/23/25 07:44 AM ET
What about Memphis? Memphis should be a good fit for the B12.
RandomAsianGuy • 04/22/25 05:59 PM ET
Which ever conference that has a need to backfill will consider them, but
Big12 guy • 04/22/25 07:55 PM ET
I like Memphis. Memphis has good fan support and are good in
HouClone • 04/22/25 07:23 PM ET
Okay got it, thanks!**
Stech • 04/21/25 08:14 PM ET
And they were not interested in the acc ◄
HokieAl • 04/21/25 07:42 PM ET
The ACC has made a few major strategic mistakes. Not being able to get
RandomAsianGuy • 04/22/25 01:04 PM ET
What Oregon and UW realized.....
2hhoop3 • 04/21/25 08:09 PM ET
Yeah, they knew they had options. They could have kept the P12 alive and
reestuart • 04/22/25 08:50 AM ET
The future for the ACC is completely tied to the
Big12 guy • 04/21/25 08:03 PM ET
Agreed, and upon the P2 adopting "uneven" as well.
Truthahn • 04/22/25 11:01 AM ET
I agree with this. If the uneven distribution system is
Big12 guy • 04/22/25 01:21 PM ET
Continually re-evaluated and based upon attractiveness and value
Truthahn • 04/22/25 02:04 PM ET
maybe, but personally, I like the B12 without Texas much better. **
Big12 guy • 04/22/25 02:15 PM ET
That has a finite life, so the future is not completely tied to it...lol**
EDGEMAN • 04/22/25 09:56 AM ET
You can say the present is completely tied to it.**
EDGEMAN • 04/22/25 09:57 AM ET