If you think Andy Bitter has it right, they’re going for smaller not bigger
Much smaller, we could even see schools like Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Mississippi State and Purdue kicked out of the P2. He says that, but then says his sources tell him UVA, will be included, but not Virginia Tech because of their all sports success. I know All Sports cost money, football makes money, but his media contacts say that doesn’t matter this time. 🤷♂️ He also seems to think even though the SEC Presidents have changed their minds before about expansion schools, he gave me the impression in our Subscription post conversation there is little chance of any of this changing. I tried to get him to be more specific with what he was saying, but he said my questions were irrelevant because the P2 plan to have very little expansion because they want to hog (my description of it) the money. If he’s right, our Administrations lack of leadership in Athletics once again, and Virginia Tech is screwed like it was in the early 50’s for joining the ACC. Whit and Jim Phillips love to embrace the past (ie Notre Dame Independence) and if Andy’s got it right, it’s the early 50’s all over again, where we missed out on joining the ACC. That took ~50 years to correct.
I hope he’s wrong, but he’s dug in very hard on this, with very few of my questions answered, except they don’t care UVA doesn’t make football money, the P2 are only going to take about 4 more schools, and our politicians in Virginia working together won’t matter.
Lastly, I asked him more than once why Hokie83 was hearing almost the opposite more optimistic view, and he acted like I never asked the questions. Honestly I expected more from someone that makes a living getting people to open up, but it became obvious, I wasn’t going to get anymore out of him. I’m not angry at him, I’m disappointed since he expects more from those he interviews, than he gave me.
You come to your own conclusions what it all means.
Thread Replies (34)
the thing everyone forgets about college football...
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Mar 07, 2025 at 10:24 AM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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03/07/25 10:24 AM ET
Almost, instead it may well be the P2 with 32 ish teams
-- VTCALS72
Mar 07, 2025 at 08:44 AM ET
VTCALS72
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03/07/25 08:44 AM ET
B1G and SEC currently host two-ish games a week in the
-- daveinop
Mar 07, 2025 at 04:36 PM ET
daveinop
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03/07/25 04:36 PM ET
Sorry, I meant a total of 32 in the P2 or 16 per league.**
-- VTCALS72
Mar 07, 2025 at 04:39 PM ET
VTCALS72
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03/07/25 04:39 PM ET
ESPN has all the power. They are college football
-- HokieAl
Mar 07, 2025 at 08:23 AM ET
HokieAl
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03/07/25 08:23 AM ET
If you think Andy Bitter has it right, they’re going for smaller not bigger
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-- Stech
Mar 07, 2025 at 08:02 AM ET
Stech
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03/07/25 08:02 AM ET
No one knows what will happen
-- Red Hokie
Mar 12, 2025 at 06:29 AM ET
Red Hokie
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03/12/25 06:29 AM ET
Conclusion? He doesn't know any more about what will happen than any other
-- ancient alien 2018
Mar 09, 2025 at 09:17 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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03/09/25 09:17 PM ET
100%! It can start with 1 voice, but it takes multiple voices to change it!**
-- Stech
Mar 08, 2025 at 08:47 AM ET
Stech
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03/08/25 08:47 AM ET
The B1G isn't kicking long-time members out of the league.
-- Maroon Baboon
Mar 07, 2025 at 12:32 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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03/07/25 12:32 PM ET
Nothing academic is keeping anyone in the B1G
-- Pylons
Mar 07, 2025 at 04:12 PM ET
Pylons
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03/07/25 04:12 PM ET
Wasn't the University of Chicago once a B10 school?**
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 07, 2025 at 04:00 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/07/25 04:00 PM ET
Yes. They left on their own. 80 years ago.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Mar 07, 2025 at 07:16 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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03/07/25 07:16 PM ET
Yes, it was a founding member and left the conference in 1946.
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 07, 2025 at 04:16 PM ET
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03/07/25 04:16 PM ET
I used to think the Big 10 and SEC would end up kicking
-- mancunian
Mar 07, 2025 at 12:44 PM ET
mancunian
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03/07/25 12:44 PM ET
Do you think all the Big Ten schools are on board with playing all their
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 07, 2025 at 12:35 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/07/25 12:35 PM ET
I suppose those who don't want to pay can self-deport so to speak.
-- Maroon Baboon
Mar 07, 2025 at 01:49 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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03/07/25 01:49 PM ET
Regardless whether the conference kicks them out or the schools opt to
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 07, 2025 at 04:00 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/07/25 04:00 PM ET
The difference is not just semantics.
-- Maroon Baboon
Mar 07, 2025 at 07:35 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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03/07/25 07:35 PM ET
Is Northwestern currently paying their athletes a salary now?
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 07, 2025 at 08:23 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/07/25 08:23 PM ET
They know what's coming. And I'm sure they are prepared to pay the price.
-- Maroon Baboon
Mar 08, 2025 at 02:24 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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03/08/25 02:24 PM ET
It would mean UNC got UVA in
-- MrFantastic!
Mar 07, 2025 at 11:29 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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03/07/25 11:29 AM ET
Bitter is awesome, but I don't think anyone actually has sources.
-- reestuart
Mar 07, 2025 at 10:04 AM ET
reestuart
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03/07/25 10:04 AM ET
Agreed on both, and the numbers & Presidents change, it’s a moving target.**
-- Stech
Mar 07, 2025 at 10:17 AM ET
Stech
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03/07/25 10:17 AM ET
yeah, I don't think anyone will know until something actually happens.
-- reestuart
Mar 07, 2025 at 12:12 PM ET
reestuart
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03/07/25 12:12 PM ET
With his connections it might be right if the decision were made right now,
-- Stech
Mar 07, 2025 at 01:52 PM ET
Stech
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03/07/25 01:52 PM ET
With all due respect to Bitter-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Mar 07, 2025 at 09:42 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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03/07/25 09:42 AM ET
Greed will not stop, I think the P2 purging the bottom 1/3 (give or take)
-- HokieNoVA
Mar 07, 2025 at 09:38 AM ET
HokieNoVA
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03/07/25 09:38 AM ET
Saban alluded to this during the interminable CFB playoff
-- mancunian
Mar 07, 2025 at 09:18 AM ET
mancunian
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03/07/25 09:18 AM ET
I heard him say it too, but if they are going that small, you need 30 best
-- Stech
Mar 07, 2025 at 09:52 AM ET
Stech
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03/07/25 09:52 AM ET
i hope that he's wrong b/c i don't have 50 yrs to live :-(**
-- Windows NT
Mar 07, 2025 at 09:06 AM ET
Windows NT
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03/07/25 09:06 AM ET
if any single reporter knows how it all plays out
-- daveinop
Mar 07, 2025 at 08:55 AM ET
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03/07/25 08:55 AM ET