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Maroon Baboon
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Maroon Baboon

The BigXII didn't need another school from Texas.

And SMU to BigXII would likely have been blocked by the Texas schools in the XII. SMU also came to the ACC at a major discount. These are inconvenient facts that get in the way of FSU's narrative.
Posted: 10/21/2024 at 10:28 PM ET
(In response to this post by CobbCountyHokie)

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When I think of the misguided FSU lawsuit, I cannot help thinking of SMU
CobbCountyHokie • 10/21/24 10:38 AM ET
That didn’t age very well did it?
Marooned • 10/30/24 01:49 PM ET
SMU has beaten FSU every time they played.
Truthahn • 10/22/24 11:50 AM ET
You are confusing current football records with media draw and
133193Hokie • 10/22/24 08:18 AM ET
Well I don’t know about that…
lawhokie • 10/22/24 08:13 PM ET
Nothing confusing......
2hhoop3 • 10/22/24 08:34 PM ET
I am not confusing anything
CobbCountyHokie • 10/22/24 09:56 AM ET
Their being in line for the champ game has little to do with worthiness
marcbvtgm • 10/23/24 12:45 PM ET
The BigXII didn't need another school from Texas. ◄
Maroon Baboon • 10/21/24 10:28 PM ET
There are plenty of facts........
2hhoop3 • 10/21/24 10:49 PM ET
you're smiling... I AM LOLOLOLOL**
Windows NT • 10/21/24 05:21 PM ET
The Seminole tribe should reconsider approval to use their name.
Truthahn • 10/22/24 12:22 PM ET
their brand is already stained from all the crap they put out**
Windows NT • 10/22/24 12:33 PM ET
SMU has all the resources they need to compete in the P4.
Sunsetunderground • 10/21/24 01:41 PM ET
Thanks, guys!
SMU Pony • 10/21/24 08:03 PM ET
Hopefully it will be a night game.
EDGEMAN • 10/23/24 09:54 AM ET
the cool thin mountain air at night... ahh**
Windows NT • 10/23/24 12:12 PM ET
Welcome to Blacksburg!**
IB4TECH • 10/22/24 05:48 PM ET
If your conference comes out of this intact, SMU will be a
Big12 guy • 10/21/24 12:06 PM ET
Right. The new coin of the realm is coins, lots of NIL coins.
Truthahn • 10/22/24 12:07 PM ET
There are some other schools primed as well to buy
Big12 guy • 10/22/24 12:32 PM ET
BYU does have both as well. And religious schools have another advantage...
Truthahn • 10/23/24 12:41 PM ET
Any team that goes undefeated in FBS should be included
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 12:56 PM ET
An undefeated Liberty could receive the G5's automatic bid as being the
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 12:54 PM ET
There could easily be 2 undefeated G6 champs in coming years. **
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 01:20 PM ET
If you are referring to Army or Navy, then you should keep in mind that
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 02:38 PM ET
No, I wasn't even referring to this year. I think that any team in FBS that
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 02:41 PM ET
In your previous post, you stated there could be 2 undefeated G5 teams
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 02:43 PM ET
"In coming years" was part of the post. **
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 02:44 PM ET
By the time it happens it may be a moot point because the P2 Playoffs could
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 02:57 PM ET
Could be, but as dire as things look for those not in the P2,
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 03:09 PM ET
The rest of the country may desire that, but what isn't clear right now is
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 03:15 PM ET
I think that ship has sailed the networks aren't in business to
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 03:22 PM ET
And yet ESPN decided to broadcast the North Dakota State vs. South Dakota
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 03:25 PM ET
From where I'm sitting, KU football has never been on network television
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 03:29 PM ET
Well the conference networks do need content too and that shouldn't change
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 03:36 PM ET
There is a ton of content out there. Streaming needs content as well.
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 03:46 PM ET
MAC/Sun Belt Tuesday (and Wednesday) has been going on for about the last
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 03:54 PM ET
It's coming for the B12 and ACC in my opinion. **
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 04:03 PM ET
As with everything there will always be pros and cons to playing a
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 04:09 PM ET
What upside would the ACC get for letting FSU go? Door is open 4 others to
Stech • 10/21/24 02:39 PM ET
That was an emotion, not a pragmatic statement. FSI is a kin
Big12 guy • 10/21/24 02:47 PM ET
You could say that this season that the ACC is w/o FSU and it's not the
IB4TECH • 10/22/24 05:50 PM ET
I get the screw them with how Texas treated the B12, I have a mixed opinion
Stech • 10/21/24 08:15 PM ET
In the grand scheme, UNC is much more puppet master than FSU
HokieAl • 10/21/24 04:00 PM ET
Yeah, all of the power is in Chapel Hill. **
reestuart • 10/23/24 11:48 AM ET
This**
133193Hokie • 10/22/24 08:20 AM ET
correct, which is why FSU is throwing a temper tantrum.**
neworleanshoo • 10/21/24 10:33 PM ET
After FSU, every ACC expansion move was to lure Notre Dame
Sunsetunderground • 10/21/24 06:41 PM ET
The addition of BC was to please Donna Shalala.
Truthahn • 10/22/24 12:02 PM ET
The original 2003 configuration was UM, BC and Cuse
mancunian • 10/22/24 12:54 PM ET
You are forgetting that BC didn't get the votes at the time Miami
Sunsetunderground • 10/22/24 12:24 PM ET
The NC State chancellor voted against BC because she wanted
RJHokie • 10/22/24 12:33 PM ET
ND will not join a league for football until their path to the playoff
CobbCountyHokie • 10/22/24 10:04 AM ET
ND with one loss WILL always be in the playoffs.
Atlee Hokie • 10/23/24 01:34 AM ET
It would take more than that
TerryD • 10/22/24 02:54 PM ET
ACC and ND's relationship
mancunian • 10/22/24 08:46 AM ET
The two problems with that........
TerryD • 10/22/24 07:33 AM ET
I get why ND wants to still claim independence
Sunsetunderground • 10/22/24 12:46 PM ET
Your "cure" is the same as the "disease"
TerryD • 10/22/24 02:58 PM ET
Independence is a big part of their brand. Someone mentioned it earlier -
Big12 guy • 10/22/24 01:53 PM ET
USC was added to the B1G to make Fox happy by bringing the LA market**
CobbCountyHokie • 10/22/24 10:01 AM ET
the USC addition to the Big Ten wasn't to lure ND. If that was the only
reestuart • 10/22/24 09:06 AM ET
USC and the Big Ten ..
TerryD • 10/22/24 03:03 PM ET
Maybe they did, but that's not why the Big Ten added them. NBC will
reestuart • 10/22/24 03:37 PM ET
NBC isn't giving up 7 ND games
mrcaniac • 10/22/24 11:38 PM ET
They'd potentially gain 3-4 more ND road games. At worst, a wash.
reestuart • 10/23/24 08:06 AM ET
NBC will have 4-5 games max
mrcaniac • 10/23/24 10:09 PM ET
The Big Ten thought that would happen last year
TerryD • 10/23/24 08:19 AM ET
I hope it works out for ND. But everything changes.**
reestuart • 10/23/24 08:30 AM ET
We will se what happens in the next round of media contract
Big12 guy • 10/23/24 07:24 AM ET
I sure as hell would never have put Pitt and Syracuse on
Pylons • 10/22/24 08:16 AM ET
Navy as well if all three of those programs were competing for
Big12 guy • 10/22/24 09:10 AM ET
If the Big Ten really wanted to force Notre Dame's hand, then it probably
VTHokie2000 • 10/22/24 02:05 PM ET
If that happened..
TerryD • 10/22/24 03:07 PM ET
Interesting that Notre Dame would go back on its word. I wonder how much
VTHokie2000 • 10/22/24 03:10 PM ET
It's been 80 years...
TerryD • 10/22/24 05:34 PM ET
If Notre Dame's gratitude had a time limit, then Notre Dame probably
VTHokie2000 • 10/22/24 06:39 PM ET
You must have missed the Big Ten/Navy extortion part of my response
TerryD • 10/23/24 08:21 AM ET
No, I didn't miss that part of your response. I am saying that Notre Dame
VTHokie2000 • 10/23/24 09:19 AM ET
In todays college football market? No one. **
Big12 guy • 10/22/24 03:19 PM ET
The Navy-Notre Dame may be "different" though even in today's college
VTHokie2000 • 10/22/24 03:36 PM ET
I've heard it as well, but that was in the 40's. ND will
Big12 guy • 10/22/24 03:42 PM ET
Given that you can find the following sentence (or something similar) in
VTHokie2000 • 10/22/24 03:52 PM ET
I don't think ND will ever join the BIG. If they have to
Big12 guy • 10/22/24 02:28 PM ET
You did notice the TIC right? The reason I jokingly stated what I did is
VTHokie2000 • 10/22/24 02:39 PM ET
That would void that promise **
TerryD • 10/22/24 03:08 PM ET
I don't believe Notre Dame ever publicly state that it was a qualified
VTHokie2000 • 10/22/24 03:12 PM ET
My understanding of Navy/ND
mancunian • 10/22/24 09:57 AM ET
That's what I've heard. Without Navy, ND would have basically shut down.**
reestuart • 10/22/24 01:46 PM ET
Yeah, ND is pretty unique with respect to rivalry,
Pylons • 10/22/24 09:20 AM ET
Don't forget Stanford.**
tarheelblue • 10/21/24 09:30 PM ET
That's a decent explanation, and how I would have looked
Big12 guy • 10/21/24 05:06 PM ET