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marcbvtgm

This chart assumes X & Y are weighted equally. They're not. And where's Z?

My guess is that Y axis means a lot more than the X axis. Just look at how many schools high on the Y axis aren't members vs the X axis. And it doesn't take into consideration multiple Z axis. Other likely factors - like the composition of the Y axis portfolio, # of Natl Acad of Science Members, high impact publications, etc aren't even included. When making a presentation, we used to call this baffle 'em with BS. VT is probably on the short list, but who knows. And the other thing, does it really matter? I personally don't think it matters very little. If VT were suddenly invited to the AAU, would its chances of being invited to one of the P2 appreciably improve? Very little, IMO. Beyond that AAU membership is utterly meaningless. Nobody cares about it except people in university PR depts and basement keyboard chest thumpers. It has zero real world impact on research or education. ** Edited by marcbvtgm at 6/10/2024, 10:35:40 AM ** Edited by marcbvtgm at 6/10/2024, 10:38:57 AM
Posted: 06/10/2024 at 10:34 AM ET
(In response to this post by Jefferson Hokie)

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Virginia Tech in the AAU?
Jefferson Hokie • 06/10/24 01:04 AM ET
UGA, VT, FSU and NCSU cluster look like good fits. UGA is becoming quite
TDVick • 06/10/24 04:22 PM ET
If you want to avoid the Altimore bias download the data yourself:
33laszlo99 • 06/10/24 02:39 PM ET
Wow how did KU, UO and Mizzou get in?
Marooned • 06/10/24 12:26 PM ET
I'm not sure about KU and Oregon, but the story I heard about Missouri was
TDVick • 06/10/24 04:27 PM ET
Never happened man like the round earth the ACC lovers will say it is so,
jdkhokie • 06/10/24 09:28 PM ET
Because that graph isn't how AAU membership is decided
Pylons • 06/10/24 04:22 PM ET
I get that there are other factors but
Marooned • 06/10/24 09:32 PM ET
Not entirely useless info, but fuels wishful thinking more than it informs.**
marcbvtgm • 06/14/24 01:54 PM ET
I think I'll take the Groucho Marx approach.
Maroon Baboon • 06/10/24 01:28 PM ET
i think KU is pretty good academically, no?**
MrBayAreaHokie • 06/10/24 12:30 PM ET
NO!! U S News ranking is 151. **
ancient alien 2018 • 06/10/24 10:21 PM ET
Admissions are easy; education quality is great, though**
hokie_jayhawk • 06/10/24 05:04 PM ET
Kansas? I don’t think so.**
HwoodHokie • 06/10/24 12:56 PM ET
KU has the same text books as VaTech,
VPI 1924 • 06/10/24 03:33 PM ET
WTF??? And of course textbooks are the end all of a University education??
ancient alien 2018 • 06/10/24 10:23 PM ET
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HwoodHokie • 06/10/24 05:59 PM ET
If you were to make a chart of YouTubers with the worst record on
WBGV • 06/10/24 11:45 AM ET
This chart assumes X & Y are weighted equally. They're not. And where's Z? ◄
marcbvtgm • 06/10/24 10:34 AM ET
ZZ Top**
MrBayAreaHokie • 06/10/24 01:57 PM ET
on top of ole's smokey**
MrBayAreaHokie • 06/10/24 05:43 PM ET
I am wondering the same...
The_VT_Rock • 06/10/24 01:00 PM ET
Interesting chart that shows VT absolutely belongs...
jesuisvtguy • 06/10/24 09:50 AM ET
Or it's not nearly as straightforward as 2 criteria **
Pylons • 06/10/24 02:32 PM ET
True. Sounds like invitations are like March Madness and the eye test?
jesuisvtguy • 06/10/24 02:37 PM ET
Here's what they publish**
Pylons • 06/10/24 03:34 PM ET
I don’t usually like his biased charts, but the AAU one is good
HokieAl • 06/10/24 09:45 AM ET
On the bubble and first out, as usual.**
El Paso Hokie • 06/10/24 05:59 PM ET
Actually, because it is simple and straightforward,
Pylons • 06/10/24 04:23 PM ET
Simple, straightforward, consistent...and marginally meaningful.**
marcbvtgm • 06/10/24 10:40 AM ET
I had a pretty good idea when I saw the last round of invitations.**
EDGEMAN • 06/10/24 10:00 AM ET
VT accepted into the AAU would be huge, but that has very little
Big12 guy • 06/10/24 08:17 AM ET
Why would it be huge? How does it help attract more research $ & students?**
marcbvtgm • 06/10/24 10:41 AM ET
It would provide critical window dressing for a B10 invite. AAU membership
TDVick • 06/10/24 04:36 PM ET
Yet another baseless assumption. And it still doesn't answer the question.**
marcbvtgm • 06/13/24 03:03 PM ET
If it has any real sway, that's rather mind-boggling to me**
Pylons • 06/10/24 05:47 PM ET
It's about the relationships with those that approve the grants. **
Big12 guy • 06/10/24 11:00 AM ET
Well, I've been working in that industry for 40 years and...
marcbvtgm • 06/13/24 03:08 PM ET
Relationships can certainly be a factor,
Pylons • 06/10/24 03:36 PM ET
Is there any negative? **
Big12 guy • 06/10/24 05:18 PM ET
Of course not
Pylons • 06/10/24 05:42 PM ET
Exactly. Almost every AAU narrative spouted here is 180 deg wrong.**
marcbvtgm • 06/13/24 03:15 PM ET
But does every school need to attract more top students?
HokieAl • 06/10/24 10:26 AM ET
Enrollment is the biggest thing universities strive for. That, and the
Big12 guy • 06/10/24 10:38 AM ET
False. Again, AAU has ZERO impact on student recruitment or research $$.
marcbvtgm • 06/14/24 12:54 PM ET
Ive heard from high folks at vt very close
DMV Gobbler • 06/10/24 07:56 AM ET
Don't pay attention to high folks.**
33laszlo99 • 06/10/24 01:26 PM ET
It is actively being pursued. No timeline as of yet but
Gobbler95 • 06/10/24 10:09 AM ET
10 years ago, I heard from high folks at VT that we were close. Who knows**
CrystalCoveHokie • 06/10/24 10:05 AM ET
We are above and to the right of quite a few AAU members on that chart
EDGEMAN • 06/10/24 08:31 AM ET
It’s not just the research dollars
dayooper • 06/10/24 10:04 AM ET
How much funded research isn't "competitive"?**
Pylons • 06/10/24 04:28 PM ET
Apparently Ag grants are allocated willy-nilly except for those labelled
33laszlo99 • 06/10/24 06:09 PM ET
Are you saying VT is not an engineering school?**
Concord Dan • 06/10/24 10:41 AM ET
No
dayooper • 06/10/24 02:49 PM ET
The Big 10 can't have them, we call dibs. **
Big12 guy • 06/10/24 05:31 PM ET