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HokieAl
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Easiest option is to go a la carte with all this

Give athletes options to choose from that suit their goals financially and academically - Guaranteed employee salary only - Hybrid employee with lower salary and lower NIL - Contractor with NIL only - Full time student with all classes books and housing paid for as employee - Part time student (min 2 classes a semester) with everything paid for as employee - Contractor covers all their own student costs but does have to take at least one class - guaranteed lifetime scholarship that athletes can use whenever they want. Could be a few classes at a time spread over years. Or any combination of things. This is an opportunity to be creative and break from the old mold.
Posted: 04/30/2024 at 10:28 AM ET
(In response to this post by hokieZ71)

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Potential Settlement of House v NCAA (Pete Thamel reporting)
hokieZ71 • 04/30/24 06:18 AM ET
The NCAA and colleges do not want athletes to become employees
Hokie1992 • 05/02/24 12:11 PM ET
Whatever they do, Education must b a part of it, most student athletes grad
Stech • 04/30/24 10:08 PM ET
I don't see how the colleges get out of this without making athletes
PadrosWindup • 05/02/24 12:39 PM ET
I’m okay with them being employees, but it’s a College & they need to be
Stech • 05/02/24 02:43 PM ET
They don't want to because they don't want to pay them. They'd rather
reestuart • 05/02/24 12:58 PM ET
It's really not the pay that's their biggest worry.
VTNuke • 05/03/24 12:42 AM ET
It may be true that The NCAA appears to be resisting the employee system.
33laszlo99 • 05/02/24 04:09 PM ET
It's 100% the schools. I don't think it really makes much difference
reestuart • 05/02/24 04:33 PM ET
Support
VPI 1924 • 05/02/24 01:41 PM ET
That is why a pro model, or pay for play will not work
Big12 guy • 05/02/24 03:11 PM ET
Or maybe we could tell kids to focus on education rather than football
lawhokie • 05/02/24 07:55 AM ET
how about tell the schools and athletic departments that. Then the kids.**
reestuart • 05/02/24 12:59 PM ET
Let's get the numbers right first.
mjfhokie • 05/01/24 10:01 AM ET
The numbers are very daunting for them to make a living in football or any
Stech • 05/01/24 12:20 PM ET
Totally agree
hokieZ71 • 05/01/24 06:15 AM ET
Way to walk the walk!! We need more people like you!!**
Stech • 05/01/24 08:25 AM ET
I think you are on to something here. Schools should offer minors in trades
Maroon Baboon • 04/30/24 11:46 PM ET
Thanks, was asked do u think out of the Box, I said what Box? 🤣 Seriously
Stech • 05/01/24 08:38 AM ET
What a mess**
Two4VT • 04/30/24 05:08 PM ET
Players employees of the school
HouClone • 04/30/24 01:30 PM ET
I see no need for them to be students**
CrystalCoveHokie • 04/30/24 07:25 PM ET
Watching the game where a player wears
HouClone • 04/30/24 11:36 PM ET
Isn’t it basically that way right now? And it’s only going to get worse…..
CrystalCoveHokie • 05/01/24 12:34 AM ET
Fans like the myth of the kids suiting up for good ol' state U.
mancunian • 05/01/24 08:28 AM ET
Can you imagine what will happen if these "employees"
VTCALS72 • 04/30/24 09:25 PM ET
Or the football team is 7-0 & decides to go on strike for more pay.**
Hokester • 05/02/24 10:15 AM ET
It will drain the system, **
MrFantastic! • 05/01/24 08:32 AM ET
This is why athletic departments need to privatize. **
CrystalCoveHokie • 04/30/24 09:46 PM ET
Yes.
VPI 1924 • 04/30/24 09:32 PM ET
Got a source on the "most are on welfare" comment?**
Hokie 04 • 05/01/24 10:13 AM ET
Where do you think "regular" college students are now?
EDGEMAN • 05/01/24 06:38 AM ET
If I pretend that VT has the wealthiest
Hokie12thman • 04/30/24 12:17 PM ET
I can say with certainty that I wouldn't care to watch...
MP4VT2004 • 05/02/24 09:02 PM ET
not you, but plenty of folks have said similar each change we've seen, yet
reestuart • 04/30/24 03:56 PM ET
It needs to get to the endgame. Now.
hokieZ71 • 04/30/24 05:45 PM ET
There are fairly simple solutions to the entire mess. But nobody in charge
reestuart • 04/30/24 05:58 PM ET
My wife coaches a high school girls flag football team
Tailgate Guru • 04/30/24 01:13 PM ET
...especially when they can just transfer the next season.
Maroon Baboon • 04/30/24 12:36 PM ET
If they start paying the players as employees, that free movement is going
reestuart • 04/30/24 03:54 PM ET
Good. Because I think player movement is a
Maroon Baboon • 04/30/24 05:33 PM ET
We're seeing that movement because nobody wants to share the money.
reestuart • 04/30/24 06:00 PM ET
If you were to attach transferable credit hours to the ability
Big12 guy • 04/30/24 01:00 PM ET
If the schools decided to place a hard cap on athletic budgets, then I'm
VTHokie2000 • 05/01/24 06:34 PM ET
Not if it was a reqierment to be in a voluntary association. **
Big12 guy • 05/01/24 07:49 PM ET
What would be the argument to justify it being allowed when restraint of
VTHokie2000 • 05/01/24 09:13 PM ET
I'm a bit ahead of myself, as the only way to have such a cap would
Big12 guy • 05/01/24 10:05 PM ET
The only reason Congress passed the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 is
VTHokie2000 • 05/02/24 10:44 AM ET
OK, while I understand your argument, and don't necessarily
Big12 guy • 05/02/24 10:53 AM ET
In your original post you make the following statement,
VTHokie2000 • 05/02/24 11:23 AM ET
revenue sharing is the obvious choice, but we know that it will not happen,
Big12 guy • 05/02/24 12:50 PM ET
Just because a school is a member of an association, it doesn't mean that
VTHokie2000 • 05/03/24 09:35 PM ET
2 things. 1) Schools will probably start dropping some sports 2) Most of us
Maroon Baboon • 04/30/24 10:55 AM ET
Less than 2% of college athletes play professional sports
MVIII • 04/30/24 01:23 PM ET
Not for Alabama either because most sports don’t have professional sports.**
Stech • 04/30/24 09:49 PM ET
I think he meant Alabama football Stech. **
VaTechHokiesACC • 05/01/24 02:14 AM ET
Maybe so, but most of them don’t make the NFL either, also Olympic Sports
Stech • 05/01/24 08:29 AM ET
All athletes, including the big money NIL guys should have access to the
Maroon Baboon • 04/30/24 01:29 PM ET
What jumped out at me is that they would not require and amount,
Big12 guy • 04/30/24 11:07 AM ET
Yeah, that's how I saw that cap as well.
hokieZ71 • 04/30/24 01:16 PM ET
I'm not convinced there are that many schools that would have the
Big12 guy • 04/30/24 01:24 PM ET
Easiest option is to go a la carte with all this ◄
HokieAl • 04/30/24 10:28 AM ET
My option don't pay em squat.**
jdkhokie • 04/30/24 06:23 PM ET
Am I the only one who believes that the school administrators will insist
33laszlo99 • 04/30/24 12:26 PM ET
I definitely think they need to be at least part time students
HokieAl • 04/30/24 12:48 PM ET
Why?......
2hhoop3 • 04/30/24 12:58 PM ET
and it was cheating, still is cheating, and should always be cheating
HokieAl • 04/30/24 04:51 PM ET
I am not.......
2hhoop3 • 04/30/24 05:02 PM ET
ah got it. Yeah I agree. FUBAR**
HokieAl • 04/30/24 06:11 PM ET
Give athletes a choice: a free ride or $30K per year
EDGEMAN • 04/30/24 06:43 AM ET
I think they should get both, but that is it, no more brown bags of cash
HortHokie • 04/30/24 02:12 PM ET
This the way to do it for sure
VPI_1998 • 04/30/24 09:29 AM ET
I think that it will be both, not one or the other**
TerryD • 04/30/24 08:31 AM ET
What's the price of tuition, fees and housing in South Bend these days?
Tailgate Guru • 04/30/24 09:32 AM ET
About $80k a year, all told**
TerryD • 04/30/24 12:50 PM ET
Exactly. I think that’ll be the choice moving forwards.
hokieZ71 • 04/30/24 07:13 AM ET
very interesting concept..
DMV Gobbler • 04/30/24 07:28 AM ET