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7 reasons why he's wrong.
This delta bravo was wrong about everything related to the Pac-12 blowup. And he's wrong about almost everything here.
1. In a way, this is somewhat of a zero sum game. If the ACC loses FSU to the P2, the gap between the ACC and the big time gets even wider.
2. None of this happens in a vacuum. If the ACC lets FSU out, it WILL be viewed as weaker (i.e., devalued in the future).
3. He mentioned that it has to be done in a way that won't make others want to go. Oh? How exactly is that done? The only difference between Clemson and FSU right now is that FSU is crying, and Clemson is quiet. When Clemson and others see that crying will get you a "deal", well, get ready for a lot more crying.
4. He leaves out perhaps the most material point. How much would "a deal" look like? 450 million? 200 million? 100 million? The amount matters. And if it isn't enough to split 16 or so ways and have it move the needle for individual schools, then what's the point in making a deal?
5. He seems to not have a stomach for conflict and bad PR. "The ACC and FSU both look bad. So make a deal." I got news for him. Both will look bad after a deal as well. But one party will make out and the other won't. And I have a feeling that in a deal, the ACC would be the one to get hosed.
6. His liddle sojourn down Tobacco Road memory lane was quaint, and foolish. The P2 have accumulated almost all the massive brands in the sport, not to mention time zones, TV markets, and large states. Meanwhile, this dolt is talking about Tobacco Road, which encompasses a few medium sized states, as being undervalued. Really? Pray tell, who will pony up and pay the ACC what this dude thinks they're worth?
7. He makes another flaw in logic by acting like it's a big deal to be #3 in the conference arms race. But this isn't a rank-order game. Track position doesn't matter. It's all about one conference's total value versus another. And right now, "Number 3" is getting lapped by Number 2 and Number 1. So who cares how close Number 4 is.
Yeah. I know the ACC might want to hide things and prevent this from going to trial. But I think they need to go to the mat here. Any deal other than something very close to the full price of the exit costs will just lead to the ACC breaking up anyway. So, the ACC might as well go to the mat.
** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 2/28/2024, 11:35:18 PM
Thread Replies (26)
From Tony Altimore on Twitter: Should the ACC just cut a deal with FSU?
-- Will Stewart
Feb 28, 2024 at 10:46 AM ET
Will Stewart
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02/28/24 10:46 AM ET
This Pac shrill is terrible with predictions and conclusions.
-- HouClone
Feb 29, 2024 at 07:50 AM ET
HouClone
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02/29/24 07:50 AM ET
This guy is wrong about everything
-- Millpoint
Feb 28, 2024 at 08:22 PM ET
Millpoint
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02/28/24 08:22 PM ET
7 reasons why he's wrong.
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-- Maroon Baboon
Feb 28, 2024 at 07:52 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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02/28/24 07:52 PM ET
They were always going to cut a deal. The only question is the
-- 133193Hokie
Feb 28, 2024 at 05:28 PM ET
133193Hokie
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02/28/24 05:28 PM ET
The article has three flaws
-- LeadingEdge
Feb 28, 2024 at 04:00 PM ET
LeadingEdge
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02/28/24 04:00 PM ET
#2 is wrong. Existing ACC schools will be well ahead of the new Big 12 deal
-- SMU Pony
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:39 PM ET
SMU Pony
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02/28/24 11:39 PM ET
Ok, post the comparison when the subsidies end**
-- HouClone
Feb 29, 2024 at 03:35 PM ET
HouClone
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02/29/24 03:35 PM ET
That would depend on the Big 12's next deal (after 2031)**
-- SMU Pony
Feb 29, 2024 at 09:04 PM ET
SMU Pony
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02/29/24 09:04 PM ET
Define "well ahead". You can have the higher media payout if that is
-- Big12 guy
Feb 29, 2024 at 07:23 AM ET
Big12 guy
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02/29/24 07:23 AM ET
I think existing schools will take home about 25% more than B12 schools...
-- SMU Pony
Feb 29, 2024 at 09:08 PM ET
SMU Pony
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02/29/24 09:08 PM ET
I won't take a guess on the numbers, but the ACC as it's configured today
-- Big12 guy
Mar 01, 2024 at 07:21 AM ET
Big12 guy
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03/01/24 07:21 AM ET
Guy thinks no one else will leave if they settle w/ FSU, Brooklyn 🌉 sale &
-- Stech
Feb 28, 2024 at 02:14 PM ET
Stech
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02/28/24 02:14 PM ET
This is absolutely priceless and sums up the world we live in...
-- jesuisvtguy
Feb 28, 2024 at 01:09 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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02/28/24 01:09 PM ET
I see no reason for the ACC to make a deal. I consider individuals who
-- saret
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:43 AM ET
saret
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02/28/24 11:43 AM ET
Nothing really of substance. We all know FSU is going
-- HokieAl
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:37 AM ET
HokieAl
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02/28/24 11:37 AM ET
I disagree on his #4 point and #6 point.
-- Atlee Hokie
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:17 AM ET
Atlee Hokie
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02/28/24 11:17 AM ET
Very reasonable analysis
-- VT ChemE 1986
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:09 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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02/28/24 11:09 AM ET
Probably planned when they brought Cal
-- HokieKick`nBack
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:04 AM ET
HokieKick`nBack
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02/28/24 11:04 AM ET
The ACC leadership (ie.e ACC Presidents) were fat, dumb, and happy with
-- 133193Hokie
Feb 28, 2024 at 05:32 PM ET
133193Hokie
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02/28/24 05:32 PM ET
That, and the ACC could have plucked the B12 leftovers. KU in
-- Big12 guy
Feb 28, 2024 at 05:48 PM ET
Big12 guy
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02/28/24 05:48 PM ET
It's about survival. When the look in happens in '26, let FOX bid for
-- Big12 guy
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:31 AM ET
Big12 guy
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02/28/24 11:31 AM ET
This would destroy the ACC network and that revenue stream. **
-- Sunsetunderground
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:54 AM ET
Sunsetunderground
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02/28/24 11:54 AM ET
How so? The better games would be put on linier TV, and there would still
-- Big12 guy
Feb 28, 2024 at 11:59 AM ET
Big12 guy
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02/28/24 11:59 AM ET
Why would people want a network when most the games are on ESPN ABC or Fox
-- Sunsetunderground
Feb 28, 2024 at 12:42 PM ET
Sunsetunderground
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02/28/24 12:42 PM ET
It's about exposure and recruiting. How many high school players subscribe
-- Big12 guy
Feb 28, 2024 at 12:50 PM ET
Big12 guy
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02/28/24 12:50 PM ET