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Maroon Baboon
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The tea leaves on FSU.

I've been trying to read the tea leaves on FSU for a while. Here's what I've got. The two things that might be contradictory, so just humor me in this if you can. 1. FSU is going to the Big Ten. This is where they've been angling to go all along. I think they like to differentiate themselves from the SEC schools. And the SEC isn't exactly in love with the Noles. I think this snub for the CFP just makes choosing the Big Ten over the SEC even more satisfying to the Noles. I also think they would like to increase the academic profile of the school, and they think being in the Big Ten will be better for that somehow. From the B1G's perspective, demographics are not their friend. So a move to the West Coast (USC) and the Deep South (FSU) help tremendously with this. I also think FSU would prefer to play a national schedule rather than a regional one. 2. The reason that we can wonder if FSU even has a home, is because the desired landing spots for the Noles (the SEC or the B1G) will show NOTHING of interest publicly, to avoid the appearance of impropriety (tampering, anti-trust related stuff, etc.). Heck, the B1G was super careful about this with USC and their other Pac-12 targets, and that conference was up against the expiration of a TV contract. So I'd imagine the B1G would be even MORE prudent with a target which has over a decade left on its TV contract. That being said, I'd be shocked if there weren't back channel approval of a Big Ten invite for FSU. ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 12/23/2023, 11:41:34 AM
Posted: 12/23/2023 at 12:14 AM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Are we seeing an SDSU moment with FSU? Will they go through all of this and
Big12 guy 12/22/23 09:42 PM ET
The tea leaves on FSU.
Maroon Baboon 12/23/23 12:14 AM ET
Very thorough analysis, Maroon. You hit every critical point.**
33laszlo99 12/23/23 11:35 AM ET
Pretty sure they have a B1G invite if they get out, AAU’s not a requirement
Stech 12/22/23 11:47 PM ET
Jimbo didn’t think so
Marooned 12/22/23 11:06 PM ET
Just Re-open the Contract With the Pro Rata Clause
WarHog38 12/22/23 10:23 PM ET
The B1G got UW and the Ducks at a discount
Marooned 12/22/23 11:18 PM ET
This is just advanced notice of intentions
hokieZ71 12/22/23 10:04 PM ET
This is why I keep asking "Where are they going?"
HOO86 12/22/23 09:51 PM ET
How did Miami and University of South Florida become AAU schools?**
Atlee Hokie 12/23/23 02:17 AM ET
Happened 6 months ago.
HOO86 12/23/23 09:57 AM ET
Medical schools most likely. Research attached to those programs. **
HokieDon 12/23/23 09:52 AM ET
not as big as med school but being 10 feet from FWRI doesn't hurt either **
daveinop 12/23/23 10:21 AM ET
There are articles out there now saying they could be on an island, and
Big12 guy 12/22/23 09:57 PM ET
Even if FSU won the lawsuit, does that automatically mean that FSU has to
VTHokie2000 12/22/23 10:29 PM ET
I doubt FSU does this and then sticks around.
HOO86 12/22/23 10:36 PM ET
Well, if no invite is on the table
Marooned 12/22/23 11:13 PM ET
UT & OU stuck around to honor the Grant of Rights.
HOO86 12/22/23 11:22 PM ET
If a court says the ACC's GoR is enforceable, then FSU will have to stay.**
tarheelblue 12/23/23 01:44 AM ET
They could pay the $572 million and leave I guess.
HOO86 12/23/23 09:38 AM ET
They’ll wait it out until the cost to leave is something they can tolerate
Marooned 12/23/23 03:47 PM ET
They want to leave the ACC because they think they need more money.
tarheelblue 12/23/23 12:45 PM ET
if they had Texas oil money, they probably would just pay & leave.**
Atlee Hokie 12/23/23 09:46 AM ET
Is it true what FSU said in its suit , that ACCN is only guaranteed ...
Atlee Hokie 12/23/23 02:26 AM ET
this was the only new info in the whole filing; and all we have is their
daveinop 12/23/23 10:38 AM ET
This is probably the most favorable contract ESPN has.
HOO86 12/23/23 09:42 AM ET
They stuck around to avoid paying out through the nose to leave
Marooned 12/22/23 11:28 PM ET
We're saying the same thing effectively
HOO86 12/22/23 11:34 PM ET
Makes sense. FSU's exit could still be delayed while the appeals run their
VTHokie2000 12/22/23 10:42 PM ET
The desired date is posted in their lawsuit.
4x4hokies 12/22/23 10:49 PM ET
The discovery in this case could get brutal
Marooned 12/22/23 11:26 PM ET
Dunder Mifflin should become a sponsor of the ACC during this
mrcaniac 12/23/23 01:55 AM ET
ESPN will get dragged into this discovery process too.**
tarheelblue 12/23/23 01:42 AM ET
I think the required notice is more than 12 months.
HOO86 12/22/23 11:08 PM ET
If FSU wins, then it will be interesting to find out who is their mystery
VTHokie2000 12/22/23 10:55 PM ET
If it is the SEC, the ACC may have an opportunity here.
HOO86 12/23/23 12:18 AM ET
If it is the SEC, then it could also put a strain on the ACC's relationship
VTHokie2000 12/23/23 09:36 AM ET
It must be the B1G. Nothing else makes sense.
Marooned 12/23/23 12:22 AM ET
You hit on something here that I don't see being discussed. There has
Big12 guy 12/23/23 11:56 AM ET
That will all come out in the discovery process for this court case.**
tarheelblue 12/22/23 11:15 PM ET
I think most people would agree there are only 3 choices. The more
VTHokie2000 12/23/23 09:39 AM ET
Just don't know at what point ACC stops paying them
HOO86 12/22/23 10:46 PM ET
The money could be the least of FSU's worries because the ACC could find
VTHokie2000 12/22/23 10:52 PM ET
That's part of why I don't think they'll want to stick around.
HOO86 12/22/23 11:01 PM ET
I'm guessing their money stopped today.
4x4hokies 12/22/23 10:51 PM ET