Saw an article on some state that was dropping college degree requirements.
for some jobs. I think that's a start, we've created this artificial gatekeeping by requiring college degrees for every job even when only reading and writing and 'rithmatic are needed. That also puts those gatekeepers in a position of power.
Not admiring the logic of the cited studies, college degrees make more money than high school diplomas? well, of course, but that might be one of those correlation is not necessarily causation things, kids who can afford college might be from better off educated families etc. in the first place, you're essentially paying your entrance fee to a better lifestyle: college degree as ticket... and how do they address the whole student loan debt thing? that sure seems like a case of getting that degree making things worse off than just a high school diploma. they can't just look at adding everyone up and making a blanket statement that degreed kids are better off, need to break it down by categories. Anyway, stuff that's been brought up before even on these boards, the college thing is broke w/declining ROI
** Edited by `lag at 5/24/2023, 3:48:43 PM
Thread Replies (37)
College enrollment continues to slide...
-- ModerateHokie
May 24, 2023 at 11:20 AM ET
ModerateHokie
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05/24/23 11:20 AM ET
In addition to the other reasons stated, male enrollment is decreasing
-- Va AandM
May 24, 2023 at 05:07 PM ET
Va AandM
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05/24/23 05:07 PM ET
The absurd price tags finally reached the point people started calling "BS"
-- Zanderhokie
May 24, 2023 at 04:45 PM ET
Zanderhokie
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05/24/23 04:45 PM ET
Saw an article on some state that was dropping college degree requirements.
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-- `lag
May 24, 2023 at 02:27 PM ET
`lag
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05/24/23 02:27 PM ET
many 2 year schools are basically free if you have grades
-- bigbadbird
May 24, 2023 at 01:28 PM ET
bigbadbird
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05/24/23 01:28 PM ET
This is a positive. Preeminent state schools like VT will be fine. But
-- RoswellGAHokie
May 24, 2023 at 01:22 PM ET
RoswellGAHokie
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05/24/23 01:22 PM ET
For heaven's sake, let's hope law school enrollment slides soon**
-- Tailgate Guru
May 24, 2023 at 12:29 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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05/24/23 12:29 PM ET
Seeing this slowly occurring in IT
-- Baltimore Hokie
May 24, 2023 at 12:17 PM ET
Baltimore Hokie
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05/24/23 12:17 PM ET
Our best IT people by far are veterans
-- Happy Dog
May 24, 2023 at 08:01 PM ET
Happy Dog
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05/24/23 08:01 PM ET
I have a degree in Hotel and Restuarant Management and I do IT work
-- OrlandoHokie
May 24, 2023 at 03:57 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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05/24/23 03:57 PM ET
How did you move into IT? Certifications? OJT?**
-- Baltimore Hokie
May 24, 2023 at 04:09 PM ET
Baltimore Hokie
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05/24/23 04:09 PM ET
Both. First OJT then Cisco and Juniper certifications.
-- OrlandoHokie
May 24, 2023 at 05:23 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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05/24/23 05:23 PM ET
too much money spent on administration and amenities
-- HokieDan95
May 24, 2023 at 12:07 PM ET
HokieDan95
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05/24/23 12:07 PM ET
Well, when students choose based on amenities, it's risky to
-- Pylons
May 24, 2023 at 12:16 PM ET
Pylons
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05/24/23 12:16 PM ET
I'd bet if a school like VT dropped prices and didn't try to keep up...
-- hokiehunter07
May 24, 2023 at 01:47 PM ET
hokiehunter07
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05/24/23 01:47 PM ET
Ivy's charge tuition based on what you can afford (need based tuition)
-- HokieToph
May 24, 2023 at 04:05 PM ET
HokieToph
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05/24/23 04:05 PM ET
It's not sustainable. The result will be college country clubs**
-- ModerateHokie
May 24, 2023 at 02:55 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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05/24/23 02:55 PM ET
I hear ya., but for how long have people been saying that?**
-- Pylons
May 24, 2023 at 03:00 PM ET
Pylons
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05/24/23 03:00 PM ET
Yep, there’s a lot more amenities at colleges than when
-- RJHokie
May 24, 2023 at 12:25 PM ET
RJHokie
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05/24/23 12:25 PM ET
Its ridiculous. Toured Clemson with a neice, the new dining hall..
-- kt22hokie
May 24, 2023 at 01:33 PM ET
kt22hokie
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05/24/23 01:33 PM ET
That's the kind of news that sounds bad on the surface, but is actually
-- Tafkam Hokie
May 24, 2023 at 11:31 AM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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05/24/23 11:31 AM ET
There is a stigma to joining a trade or apprentice school in many middle
-- RoswellGAHokie
May 24, 2023 at 01:25 PM ET
RoswellGAHokie
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05/24/23 01:25 PM ET
you are absolutely correct**
-- radhokie1
May 25, 2023 at 08:40 AM ET
radhokie1
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05/25/23 08:40 AM ET
There's many days I'd rather be digging a ditch than sitting at this desk.**
-- 1400E
May 24, 2023 at 03:06 PM ET
1400E
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05/24/23 03:06 PM ET
Yup I wish I would’ve did a trade even if that wasn’t brewing
-- Brewing_Hokie
May 24, 2023 at 12:31 PM ET
Brewing_Hokie
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05/24/23 12:31 PM ET
Even if you can pay as you go, the ROI should be considered
-- Pylons
May 24, 2023 at 12:05 PM ET
Pylons
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05/24/23 12:05 PM ET
At this point "pay as you go" almost certainly means
-- Tafkam Hokie
May 24, 2023 at 12:43 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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05/24/23 12:43 PM ET
This is true in general, but some schools, like VT and U Va
-- RJHokie
May 24, 2023 at 11:27 AM ET
RJHokie
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05/24/23 11:27 AM ET
its because the Common App which makes it easy to apply
-- kt22hokie
May 24, 2023 at 01:30 PM ET
kt22hokie
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05/24/23 01:30 PM ET
Was just interviewing at UT...they are seeing tremendous growth**
-- Pylons
May 24, 2023 at 12:13 PM ET
Pylons
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05/24/23 12:13 PM ET
Why is growth for sake of growth a good thing? These are not corporations**
-- ModerateHokie
May 24, 2023 at 02:56 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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05/24/23 02:56 PM ET
It's not growth for the sake of growth; it's growth driven by economics as
-- HokieEngineer
May 24, 2023 at 08:54 PM ET
HokieEngineer
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05/24/23 08:54 PM ET
Not sure why you're asking since that's not a claim I made.
-- Pylons
May 24, 2023 at 03:04 PM ET
Pylons
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05/24/23 03:04 PM ET
It was a rhetorical question. The answer is "it's not". **
-- ModerateHokie
May 24, 2023 at 03:25 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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05/24/23 03:25 PM ET
Bigger schools sttracting students away from small and mid size**
-- HokieJamie
May 24, 2023 at 11:58 AM ET
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05/24/23 11:58 AM ET