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That's the kind of news that sounds bad on the surface, but is actually

good. Sounds like people are starting to figure out that getting "a" degree is almost worthless. Getting a specific degree in a field that requires a degree is still extremely valuable, but being college educated just for the sake of being college educated just isn't worth it given the cost these days. Learn a trade, join an apprenticeship, get a certificate, earn an associates degree...these are all ways to get yourself into a good career without sinking 6-figures into a college education. Sure, if you want to be an engineer, or doctor, or lawyer, or chemist, or any of a few dozen other professions, college is going to be the cost of admission into that career path. But that bachelor's degree in the humanities has a lousy ROI. If you can pay for college as you go, then sure, study what you want. But if you are borrowing money, you really need to calculate the ROI.
Posted: 05/24/2023 at 11:31 AM ET
(In response to this post by ModerateHokie)

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College enrollment continues to slide...
ModerateHokie 05/24/23 11:20 AM ET
In addition to the other reasons stated, male enrollment is decreasing
Va AandM 05/24/23 05:07 PM ET
The absurd price tags finally reached the point people started calling "BS"
Zanderhokie 05/24/23 04:45 PM ET
Saw an article on some state that was dropping college degree requirements.
`lag 05/24/23 02:27 PM ET
Just graduated
GS VT fan 05/24/23 01:46 PM ET
many 2 year schools are basically free if you have grades
bigbadbird 05/24/23 01:28 PM ET
This is a positive. Preeminent state schools like VT will be fine. But
RoswellGAHokie 05/24/23 01:22 PM ET
For heaven's sake, let's hope law school enrollment slides soon**
Tailgate Guru 05/24/23 12:29 PM ET
Seeing this slowly occurring in IT
Baltimore Hokie 05/24/23 12:17 PM ET
Our best IT people by far are veterans
Happy Dog 05/24/23 08:01 PM ET
I have a degree in Hotel and Restuarant Management and I do IT work
OrlandoHokie 05/24/23 03:57 PM ET
How did you move into IT? Certifications? OJT?**
Baltimore Hokie 05/24/23 04:09 PM ET
Both. First OJT then Cisco and Juniper certifications.
OrlandoHokie 05/24/23 05:23 PM ET
too much money spent on administration and amenities
HokieDan95 05/24/23 12:07 PM ET
Well, when students choose based on amenities, it's risky to
Pylons 05/24/23 12:16 PM ET
I'd bet if a school like VT dropped prices and didn't try to keep up...
hokiehunter07 05/24/23 01:47 PM ET
Ivy's charge tuition based on what you can afford (need based tuition)
HokieToph 05/24/23 04:05 PM ET
I doubt it.
Pylons 05/24/23 02:23 PM ET
It's not sustainable. The result will be college country clubs**
ModerateHokie 05/24/23 02:55 PM ET
I hear ya., but for how long have people been saying that?**
Pylons 05/24/23 03:00 PM ET
Yep, there’s a lot more amenities at colleges than when
RJHokie 05/24/23 12:25 PM ET
Its ridiculous. Toured Clemson with a neice, the new dining hall..
kt22hokie 05/24/23 01:33 PM ET
That's the kind of news that sounds bad on the surface, but is actually
Tafkam Hokie 05/24/23 11:31 AM ET
There is a stigma to joining a trade or apprentice school in many middle
RoswellGAHokie 05/24/23 01:25 PM ET
you are absolutely correct**
radhokie1 05/25/23 08:40 AM ET
There's many days I'd rather be digging a ditch than sitting at this desk.**
1400E 05/24/23 03:06 PM ET
Yup I wish I would’ve did a trade even if that wasn’t brewing
Brewing_Hokie 05/24/23 12:31 PM ET
Even if you can pay as you go, the ROI should be considered
Pylons 05/24/23 12:05 PM ET
At this point "pay as you go" almost certainly means
Tafkam Hokie 05/24/23 12:43 PM ET
Fair enough
Pylons 05/24/23 12:51 PM ET
This is true in general, but some schools, like VT and U Va
RJHokie 05/24/23 11:27 AM ET
its because the Common App which makes it easy to apply
kt22hokie 05/24/23 01:30 PM ET
Was just interviewing at UT...they are seeing tremendous growth**
Pylons 05/24/23 12:13 PM ET
Why is growth for sake of growth a good thing? These are not corporations**
ModerateHokie 05/24/23 02:56 PM ET
It's not growth for the sake of growth; it's growth driven by economics as
HokieEngineer 05/24/23 08:54 PM ET
Not sure why you're asking since that's not a claim I made.
Pylons 05/24/23 03:04 PM ET
It was a rhetorical question. The answer is "it's not". **
ModerateHokie 05/24/23 03:25 PM ET
Bigger schools sttracting students away from small and mid size**
HokieJamie 05/24/23 11:58 AM ET