players in the world. Until Roth's Vegas wannabe showman crapola started to take over. He can't sing for **** honestly. But he was a hell of a rock band front man. One of the best of all time. Van Hagar = a totally different animal. It was a pop-rock band, with one of the greatest guitar players in the world, and a singer who in fact can sing, in standard E tuning range (they had to tune down everything at least a half step for Roth, and Ed got sick of it). Some smash pop rock hits. A very few really aggressive rock songs, like in the old days of I, II, Women Children First, and Fair Warning. Completely different animal. Ed wasn't an aggressive punk kid anymore. He wanted to write hits, geared toward late 80s early 90s, with lots of production and keys. And then show off his guitar when he wanted to. But Ed wrote all of that music, all the keyboard driven poppy crappola stuff, which I happen to hate. People like to blame Hagar. It was all Ed. Ed wrote all of that music. Handed it to Hagar, here write lyrics. I actually like a lot of Hagars rocking stuff, both with Montrose (Rock Candy, Bad Motor Scoot), and solo... had some tremendous rockers, and a little bit of pop, but he could really rock on stuff like Heavy Metal, Only One Way to Rock, Three Lock Box, I Don't Need Love, Fast Times Ridgemont High, and others. Listen to I Don't Need Love from Three Lock Box. Holy hell that rocks man. All about SEX too, not romance lovey dovey "Love Walks In".... that was all Ed. What became of those bands, was all due to egos and control, and the stage of life Ed happened to be in at the time. My preference? Roth Halen. Anything from the first four albums. SOME from 1984. Not all. I never listen to any Van Hagar anymore. No desire. But throw on Only One Way to Rock, and I'm there man.