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Beginning of WWI England/Churchill did not sell Turkey 2 of them

And Turkey had already paid for them and was ready to pick them up. As such this pushed the Ottoman Empire toward the Axis power- though this is disputed because it is believed that Turkey was already moving in that direction. That precipitated the Middle East to no longer being under the Ottoman Empire. This created the drawing of the countries borders without any real rhyme or reason other than the interests of the English and French and created divisions and issues that continue to the present day.
Posted: 07/10/2026 at 12:52 PM ET
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today's trivia
lilhokie525 07/10/26 07:24 AM ET
As a sidenote, here's the most awesome Naval history YouTube channel...**
Chris ColemanAdmin 07/10/26 10:19 AM ET
shout out for recommending World at War! its fantastic!**
AnotherTechW 07/10/26 12:45 PM ET
Dreadnaught was a biggy**
UTPr0sim 07/10/26 07:55 AM ET
The HMS Dreadnought?**
Va AandM 07/10/26 07:35 AM ET
ding, ding, ding, correct!
lilhokie525 07/10/26 07:38 AM ET
Beginning of WWI England/Churchill did not sell Turkey 2 of them
turkeywinghokie 07/10/26 12:52 PM ET
Actually, Dreadnought had 12" guns.
Chris ColemanAdmin 07/10/26 08:41 AM ET
And eventually 18.1" guns on the Yamato
EDGEMAN 07/10/26 09:09 AM ET
Correct. Nasty, but pointless.**
Chris ColemanAdmin 07/10/26 09:31 AM ET
Especially since we sent both BBs in that class to the bottom.
EDGEMAN 07/10/26 11:59 AM ET