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Nova Hokie 95
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Nova Hokie 95
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You're comparing apples to pencil shavings here

High school and college soccer are nowhere near the equivalent status as high school and college football in their respective sport dichotomies because the best high school and college players aren't playing high school and college soccer. You could probably argue that MLS is the college football of the professional soccer world. And while the average attendance (from 15K to 50K) there isn't quite at the level of top college football, it's much MUCH better than either of you two are trying to claim. The 1994 World Cup in the US *still* holds the record for highest average and highest aggregate attendance. It will certainly be broken by the 2026 World Cup.
Posted: 07/02/2024 at 02:16 PM ET
(In response to this post by JoesterVT)

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I think it’s time to put US men’s soccer out to pasture
GreenvilleVT • 07/02/24 07:32 AM ET
Kinda mirrors our political system, don't it? This is the best we can do?**
UEMcGill • 07/02/24 02:57 PM ET
Sadly yes.
GreenvilleVT • 07/02/24 05:18 PM ET
Hire Jurgen Klopp
Happy Dog • 07/02/24 12:30 PM ET
I'm convinced they need to just start cranking shots-equivalent of 25' 3s
Dan1993 • 07/02/24 12:27 PM ET
Sounds like the 11-13 girls team I helped coach this spring.
MP4VT2004 • 07/02/24 07:22 PM ET
They infuriatingly refused to take some shots last night
hoosnowahokie • 07/02/24 01:11 PM ET
This is where I’m coming from when I talk…
vthokieq • 07/02/24 02:57 PM ET
right- my strategy is shoot for any open look inside "Corner Kick" distance
Dan1993 • 07/02/24 01:21 PM ET
It's all coaching,there is no way you can tell me that Panama has more
HokieBrazil • 07/02/24 11:48 AM ET
One minor note...he hadn't been fired. **
vthokieq • 07/02/24 12:20 PM ET
True,his contract expired and then they rehired him. Felt they couldn't get
HokieBrazil • 07/02/24 01:19 PM ET
Perhaps lazy…
vthokieq • 07/02/24 03:01 PM ET
An unspoken part of the decision was that the federation didn’t want to
GOHOKEE • 07/02/24 03:37 PM ET
That was certainly a factor.
vthokieq • 07/02/24 03:52 PM ET
what about youth soccer?**
bigbadbird • 07/02/24 09:22 AM ET
I’m confident other countries youth teams would destroy our best youth team**
GreenvilleVT • 07/02/24 05:20 PM ET
seems more pessimistic than confidence **
bigbadbird • 07/02/24 10:04 PM ET
Are you saying we should send kids out there against Uraguayan adults?
SteveInBaltimore • 07/02/24 12:59 PM ET
I dunno...some young kids might bite Suarez back. ;-)**
vthokieq • 07/02/24 01:08 PM ET
Coach soccer instead of thug ball
TomTurkey • 07/02/24 09:37 AM ET
Or go all-in on thug ball and become the Detroit Pistons of soccer?
HokieNoVA • 07/02/24 10:11 AM ET
Good luck with that. CONMEBOL has that aspect locked up**
hoosnowahokie • 07/02/24 10:25 AM ET
US doesn't really play "thug ball".
vthokieq • 07/02/24 09:45 AM ET
Refs allow much thug ball in travel soccer**
TomTurkey • 07/02/24 09:46 AM ET
You're going to need to define "thug ball".
vthokieq • 07/02/24 09:48 AM ET
Precisely. Two hands to the chest isn't soccer. Any shove with a hand
TomTurkey • 07/02/24 10:35 AM ET
enroll them in trade school**
`lag • 07/02/24 09:36 AM ET
Give them pads and a helmet and send them to football practice.**
EDGEMAN • 07/02/24 09:33 AM ET
I think the pay college kids are getting to play football
GreenvilleVT • 07/02/24 05:21 PM ET
I don't know if these guys would make it thru one football practice
Zanderhokie • 07/02/24 09:47 AM ET
We have talent just not coaching **
HokieHigh • 07/02/24 09:22 AM ET
International soccer is just a really difficult/complicated animal IMO
Hokie Fiji • 07/02/24 09:03 AM ET
Could be worse. We could be England
hoosnowahokie • 07/02/24 10:30 AM ET
England has a long tradition of falling flat on their faces in tournaments
Zanderhokie • 07/02/24 12:12 PM ET
England was exactly where my mind wandered first
Hokie Fiji • 07/02/24 11:53 AM ET
Georgia lost on Sunday to Spain, they're out.
vthokieq • 07/02/24 12:18 PM ET
Missed that result -- although not surprised by it
Hokie Fiji • 07/02/24 12:26 PM ET
Going back to England....
vthokieq • 07/02/24 12:35 PM ET
Three Lions are my other rooting interest
Hokie Fiji • 07/02/24 04:58 PM ET
…or just let them use their hands already **
chumley • 07/02/24 08:58 AM ET
That would level the playing field for us. **
RoswellGAHokie • 07/02/24 09:20 AM ET
Eliminate the goalies. That would make it really interesting. **
Zanderhokie • 07/02/24 09:09 AM ET
A wild amount of hand wringing on this board last night and now today
JoesterVT • 07/02/24 08:56 AM ET
Bottom line: the vast majority of Americans don't give a hoot about soccer
Zanderhokie • 07/02/24 09:05 AM ET
My observation is US sports fans tend to prefer explosive-type sports
Tafkam Hokie • 07/02/24 11:16 AM ET
You are talking about me.....stop it............... :)**
santafe • 07/02/24 10:52 AM ET
yep, it's just not life or death for us... also it's kind of a country club
`lag • 07/02/24 09:35 AM ET
This. We only sorta/kinda care about soccer in the U.S.
Zanderhokie • 07/02/24 09:57 AM ET
Sorry...this is such a lazy, uninformed, ignorant take.
vthokieq • 07/02/24 10:04 AM ET
Which part of it is untrue, in your expert opinion?
Zanderhokie • 07/02/24 10:50 AM ET
The vast majority of what you wrote.
vthokieq • 07/02/24 10:59 AM ET
his first 2 paragraphs are undeniably true though**
JoesterVT • 07/02/24 12:48 PM ET
Not it's not.
vthokieq • 07/02/24 12:50 PM ET
That's how it works. The whole is made up of individuals. This isn't hard.
JoesterVT • 07/02/24 12:56 PM ET
If it was "undeniable" I wouldn't be able to deny it. This isn't hard. ;-)
vthokieq • 07/02/24 01:01 PM ET
disagry
JoesterVT • 07/02/24 01:30 PM ET
You're comparing apples to pencil shavings here ◄
Nova Hokie 95 • 07/02/24 02:16 PM ET
It’s not really even that.
vthokieq • 07/02/24 04:55 PM ET
The unathletic stoners part, generally speaking**
JoesterVT • 07/02/24 10:55 AM ET
Only talking about my personal experience
Zanderhokie • 07/02/24 12:05 PM ET
Yep. Plenty of athletic stoners out there these days
Hokie Fiji • 07/02/24 11:56 AM ET
Don't necessarily disagree (though there's some hyperbole there)....
vthokieq • 07/02/24 09:09 AM ET
Who is "we?"
MAHokie69 • 07/02/24 08:54 AM ET
They should be a charity.
GreenvilleVT • 07/02/24 08:58 AM ET
Come on now...nobody runs on Uruguay!**
JoesterVT • 07/02/24 08:59 AM ET
Nice overreaction...I'll give it an 8.5/10. **
vthokieq • 07/02/24 07:46 AM ET
Over reaction? It’s been 50 years of mediocrity at best for men’s soccer
GreenvilleVT • 07/02/24 08:55 AM ET
Well, 50 years ago we weren't qualifying for the World Cup regularly
Nova Hokie 95 • 07/02/24 12:32 PM ET
Definitely a long climb for USMNT to be where they are
Hokie Fiji • 07/02/24 04:46 PM ET
I think Pulisic has...
vthokieq • 07/03/24 08:28 AM ET
I think we try to create All-Star teams for the USMNT and not necessarily
AirborneHokie96 • 07/03/24 08:56 AM ET
All national teams are "all-star teams" for the most part.
vthokieq • 07/03/24 09:06 AM ET
There have been some greats that were never capped by their country
AirborneHokie96 • 07/03/24 09:14 AM ET
And our best players are now going overseas to play.
vthokieq • 07/03/24 09:20 AM ET
well these things take time**
JoesterVT • 07/02/24 09:03 AM ET