Me to act as obtuse. Now, back up your own comment and list the food items that provide what specifically I listed, and at the same time, in quantities that won’t exceed 5,000 calories a day. You’ve done the research before your jackass comment right? So, go for it. I’ll give you a start, how about EAAs? I’ll suggest whole milk, eggs, chicken, beef or pork. Ok, now you come back with the quantities necessary to produce the same volumes in standard EAA and BCAA supplement drinks. And also how much calories, fat, cholesterol, and all of those other goodies. Next, tell me how I can get glucosamine, tumeric, msm, etc. naturally. What I would appreciate though, is if you come up with peer-reviewed studies highlighting how supplement products are harmful- like the article that began the discussion. That kind of research can be helpful. Instead of just randomly saying crap, support your jackass comments. You can probably tell that in fact I did the research myself before I posted anything. I can never understand why people post a bunch of crap that they believe but never make the effort to research. And the worst part is that you could be influencing someone negatively with an unfounded, biased comment. And that irks the crap out of me- especially by certain posters who do that every day (not referring to you). One last comment which may or may not be relevant to you. I don’t know how old you are. I’m old. Maybe not in age or function, but definitely in terms of joint deterioration. I regularly had to carry easily 125+lb packs over long distances and broken terrain, and often, with already injured knees (ever heard of a PLF?) I’ve already had surgeries from injuries during my service. I probably need knee and hip replacements (per doctors). But, I still workout whenever I can and hike a ton because that’s how I choose to live my life. All of those supplements DEFINITELY help me. Would they help you? I have no idea if you even exercise regularly. But I presented FACTS. And I personally can perform lots of tasks expected of me on a daily basis where I’m running around with guys and girls basically right out of HS a lot of times. And keeping up with them. Effed up knees and all. I moan and groan sometimes, but my family still expects me to take care of all of them, and I meet or exceed those requirements on a daily basis. And thank god for my muscle and joint repair supplements. Technically. ** Edited by reconhokie at 7/26/2022, 5:50:49 AM