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Oracle is the biggest pirate ship on the beltway

I worked several projects over the years that heavily involved bending over bigtime for Oracle because they were the only solution that could get the job done at scale even if it was sometimes quite poor (I have a good story about how sensitive Streams is and how it shut down an entire country's flight system over something stupid). We were deploying Dell servers worldwide on a commodity contract (you got the latest base version) with Oracle as the DBMS with a "by the core" pricing. Every other month, Dell would send servers with more and more cores. This was like a $100m contract with about 80% of the cost in Oracle licenses. I remember going to a meeting with Oracle with the CIO of a very, very large government agency about a more equitable pricing model with the CIO giving the whole motherhood and apple pie spiel (this was a few years after 9-11), and the Oracle rep just did the Jesse James "pay up sucker" handshake. Oracle had the upper hand because there were just no offerings to match. We had the same situation when trying to move a major system into the AWS cloud, but Oracle refused to help migrate the Exadata appliance we relied on. I guess it's good to be Oracle, and too bad for everyone else that can't compete.
Posted: 09/11/2025 at 05:17 AM ET
(In response to this post by turkeywinghokie)

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Good day to be Larry Ellison- he just passed Elon as richest
turkeywinghokie 09/10/25 12:14 PM ET
Oracle is the biggest pirate ship on the beltway
Happy Dog 09/11/25 05:17 AM ET
As an old guy I understood about three words of that post.**
Galenahokie 09/11/25 09:30 AM ET
I did 7 years at Oracle and not saying you are wrong
turkeywinghokie 09/11/25 08:06 AM ET
They also poached my staff
Happy Dog 09/11/25 08:57 AM ET
Literally pursued buying PeopleSoft just so he could fire Craig Conway CEO**
agray123 09/10/25 04:01 PM ET
Well that was the cherry on top for Larry
turkeywinghokie 09/11/25 08:03 AM ET
I was at the last PeopleSoft conference before the takeover, during the war
agray123 09/11/25 01:51 PM ET
Funny. I was at that same conference and listened to Conway in his keynote
vt90 09/11/25 04:09 PM ET
Yes! I remember that speech! Small world. I still like Peoplesoft over SAP,
agray123 09/12/25 01:21 PM ET
Been working in PS since 2001 and hope to ride my current project into ...
vt90 09/12/25 01:39 PM ET
Replacing Navy ERP with Navy ERP+ (SAP S4) will be mine! **
agray123 09/12/25 02:00 PM ET
Pretty sure that is true most days. But yeah, big leap.**
vt90 09/10/25 12:23 PM ET
$100+ Billion today- just passed him today**
turkeywinghokie 09/10/25 12:37 PM ET
Yeah - have several buddies who work at Oracle that have been texting me ..
vt90 09/10/25 12:39 PM ET