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Only if the manner in which they lose is particularly bad

Like sideline brawl kind of bad. Right now, in my opinion, VT displays all the hallmarks of an average team. They're inconsistent, they do some good things (battle back to a tie or half possession after being down 3 possessions, forcing 3 and outs, etc.), they do some bad things (alignment busts causing long touchdowns, drop passes or make the wrong reads on what could be a huge offensive play), and they can't win if they lose the turnover margin, so they kind of need the other team to make a few more mistakes. You look at the records of any number of teams over the years that went like 5-7, you see results leaving you saying "how could they beat X but lose to Y and Z?" VT has really only looked consistently bad at running the ball. The long touchdowns drive people nuts but they're not consistently bad at stopping the run. A few years ago, I forget when exactly, VT played both Pitt and GT close to one another, and they were giving up like 6 yards per carry at minimum. Like that was a way worse run defense performance, to give up so much yardage on every single snap. Anyway, if VT loses because Marshall never fumbles and doesn't throw any interceptions, VT turns the ball over 1 or more times, and everything else looks the same, sometimes they score, sometimes they go 3 and out, etc., my opinion won't really change.
Posted: 09/22/2023 at 02:30 PM ET
(In response to this post by apbaker73)

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Just curious....will a loss to Marshall this weekend change any opinions?
apbaker73 • 09/22/23 01:09 PM ET
I think the coaching staff dynamics will be strained
WildTurkE • 09/22/23 10:50 PM ET
Lose tomorrow and we’re looking at 1-10. Pry fires OC and DC. **
cricket77 • 09/22/23 10:06 PM ET
UVA will be favored when they play us. Not by a lot, but by some**
CHEQM8 • 09/22/23 09:31 PM ET
It would just confirm mine
Riverguy • 09/22/23 08:38 PM ET
Are we certain that UVA is in "a worse state than us'??**
BuffaloTraceHokie • 09/22/23 08:11 PM ET
I'm not.**
hok1eboy • 09/22/23 08:52 PM ET
We're both in VA. Oh, wait. commonwealth.**
Riverguy • 09/22/23 08:23 PM ET
We haven't proven we can win a P5 game. Haven't won one in over a YEAR and
VPI_1998 • 09/22/23 08:10 PM ET
If we lose the season is pretty much a waste
OrangeHokieFan • 09/22/23 06:57 PM ET
Yep agree***
sacramento hokie • 09/22/23 09:24 PM ET
Yawn......ask this question again next year**
VT ChemE 1986 • 09/22/23 06:00 PM ET
I’m not in the “fire the whole lot” crowd but this game feels like the last
UpstateSCHokie • 09/22/23 05:10 PM ET
Stakes are high because a "rebuild" requires us to actually get better. The
Maroon Effect • 09/22/23 05:00 PM ET
The game tomorrow is Marshall's super bowl. They will play to win, all 4
Maroon Unit • 09/22/23 04:57 PM ET
I don't want to sound negative, but no, it won't change my opinion
AirForceHokie77 • 09/22/23 04:40 PM ET
A 3rd camp exists. Keep Pry and he makes coaching staff changes.**
40ozDistrict • 09/22/23 04:36 PM ET
The way to win this game is let Wells make a …
VPI63 • 09/22/23 04:19 PM ET
To be fair he wasn’t that good at throwing to green either **
OrangeHokieFan • 09/22/23 06:58 PM ET
The way to win this game is to game plan and play your best players.**
Maroon Unit • 09/22/23 04:45 PM ET
And to come out like you want to win. Instead of being comfortable losing.
hokiemansbro • 09/22/23 06:08 PM ET
Marshall took down #18 Notre Dame last year in South Bend**
Tuckahokie • 09/22/23 04:12 PM ET
I imagine Pry was promised some time to fix things.
likehokies • 09/22/23 03:49 PM ET
He is going to get paid whether he fixes anything or not. I really don't
Coach McGuirk • 09/22/23 04:38 PM ET
If we want to run for 11 yards again, Wells is the play**
BROman Hokie • 09/22/23 03:31 PM ET
a loss no, a blowout with incompetent strategy yes**
6thStreetHokie • 09/22/23 03:22 PM ET
A September game @ Marshall isn't changing anyone's long-term outlook**
NOFX • 09/22/23 03:06 PM ET
Pry or Whit?
kinghokie • 09/22/23 02:53 PM ET
Whit should’ve been fired with Fuente
OrangeHokieFan • 09/22/23 07:00 PM ET
I really don't understand how an AD is going to fix our problems
Seikoh_04 • 09/22/23 05:42 PM ET
Lack of leadership. Continuation of blunders
RiverVT • 09/22/23 06:32 PM ET
What expert football AD is begging to move to blacksburg
Seikoh_04 • 09/22/23 08:36 PM ET
Coaching doesn't matter when your best player is the punter.
Kudelski • 09/22/23 02:42 PM ET
I want to see Drones, not Wells.
Maroon Baboon • 09/22/23 02:41 PM ET
I'd say he's still hurt but can play if needed.... save his rep a bit**
FlintMS • 09/22/23 06:48 PM ET
Not mine**
tallahasseehokie • 09/22/23 02:39 PM ET
A loss is disappointing but the reality is if we fire everyone in sight
fordham • 09/22/23 02:34 PM ET
Some fans forget Beamer went a combined 5–17 in 1987 and 1988. Beamer's rec
section11hokie • 09/22/23 03:11 PM ET
If it isn't obvious, a repeat of Beamer isn't happening folks
WildTurkE • 09/22/23 10:44 PM ET
Apples And Oranges! Hokies Were On Probation When Beamer Began. **
battmanvt • 09/22/23 05:56 PM ET
Yes, but the AD made Beamer clean house of assistants after those 2 years **
SarahVTHokie24 • 09/22/23 03:43 PM ET
Nope. Dave Braine stepped in after Year 6 (1992) and forced CFB to make
The Big Cat • 09/22/23 05:48 PM ET
we might only win 2 this year**
Windows NT • 09/22/23 08:09 PM ET
Isn’t this year 8 for Babcock
RiverVT • 09/22/23 06:33 PM ET
Started in January 2014 I believe. **
RJHokie • 09/22/23 06:35 PM ET
Don’t know if “forced” is the correct word, but in essence
RJHokie • 09/22/23 05:57 PM ET
"Pressured"?**
TomTurkey • 09/22/23 06:28 PM ET
Yeah, that’s probably the better word.**
RJHokie • 09/22/23 06:31 PM ET
Disagree totally - today’s NIL program and the portal negates the five year
sacramento hokie • 09/22/23 03:34 PM ET
Don’t see how NIL & TP makes in any difference about hiring a HC vs. a DC.
uber hokie • 09/22/23 10:34 PM ET
Pretty sure Fuente was a HC.How did that work out ? **
uber hokie • 09/22/23 05:52 PM ET
Was the portal and NIL in place then?????????***
sacramento hokie • 09/22/23 09:28 PM ET
Keep in mind the VT recruiting approach "This is home"
HokieAl • 09/22/23 04:17 PM ET
You’re comparing a team that recruits like FSU with a team that recruits
Tombo • 09/22/23 10:10 PM ET
Pry has us on the right track. What good does it do to fire him after year
techer1983 • 09/22/23 03:39 PM ET
While I can appreciate this take and believe there must be some truth to it
Tombo • 09/22/23 05:25 PM ET
Only if the manner in which they lose is particularly bad ◄
Synaesthesia • 09/22/23 02:30 PM ET
I don't care what happens, he get's 3 years **
HokiesACC2004 • 09/22/23 02:27 PM ET
A loss in game 4 won't change my long-term opinion
Zanderhokie • 09/22/23 02:23 PM ET
It's important..VT's in a spot to rebound and build into the Pitt game
VT757to276 • 09/22/23 02:21 PM ET
Lose tomorrow and I think Pry’s chances at a third year become very iffy**
DarylS • 09/22/23 02:12 PM ET
the OC and DC will be the first to go**
Windows NT • 09/22/23 07:46 PM ET
Pry is locked in for year 3. Likely for year 4**
VT ChemE 1986 • 09/22/23 06:01 PM ET
No they don’t. Other than a complete, 100% total meltdown,
uber hokie • 09/22/23 05:49 PM ET
VT would NEVER fire Pry
tallahasseehokie • 09/22/23 02:42 PM ET
Sure I'm in minority, but think anything worse than 3-9 loses big donors.**
hokie77 • 09/22/23 05:44 PM ET
3-9 will too.**
Riverguy • 09/22/23 08:41 PM ET
Not sure what the buyout is, but I think it's too early.
Maroon Baboon • 09/22/23 02:37 PM ET
Found this online**
techer1983 • 09/22/23 03:34 PM ET
Let's find a cause to terminate him without owing a penny**
Windows NT • 09/22/23 07:49 PM ET
Excellent post! That is very encouraging, and I take back most of what
Coach McGuirk • 09/22/23 04:44 PM ET
So it's $12.6m after this year, $9.45m after next year.
Maroon Baboon • 09/22/23 04:02 PM ET
Pry will be back for a third year no matter what. The OC and DC, however...**
Zanderhokie • 09/22/23 02:16 PM ET
According to the TSL Podcast Wells isn't playing until October.
VTStylez9 • 09/22/23 01:51 PM ET
So, basing off your title, because of Wells injury, fire everybody but Pry.
1980VT • 09/22/23 02:05 PM ET
Sadly lots of “fans” have that attitude. Some were calling for the punter
techer1983 • 09/22/23 02:09 PM ET
Delete - wrong location
VTHokie2000 • 09/22/23 01:45 PM ET
If we lose to Marshall we are not beating anyone until UVA.I'm willing to
HokieBrazil • 09/22/23 01:15 PM ET
I think there will be real pressure for Pry to make changes if VT goes 3-9
VPI_1998 • 09/22/23 08:43 PM ET