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HokieKoch
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I like Babcock

The tenure with Fu was bad at all levels including Babcock, and I understand why people want to move on from him because of this. He most certainly was not blameless here. However what he has done for basically every other sport has been great. Plus once he understood the deficit between VT and other schools financially were having a major impact in our competitiveness in football, he changed his and the schools long time strategy and started to invest heavily in football (staff and facilities). By the looks of it, the football program is on the right path. Admittedly we are still behind, but we have made great strides and have caught up and surpassed many P5 schools from a financial, staff and facility standpoint. Another point still not fully discussed in the ESPN article is our overall finances. We will never catch up with the top schools. Our fan base simply does not support our school that way. Not saying we don’t have any doners, plenty donate and donate big, but it still doesn’t match that of the top schools. We will always be behind in this regard. All that being said, I am energized after this offseason and have faith in Pry and renewed faith in Babcock.
Posted: 08/18/2023 at 07:23 PM ET
(In response to this post by UGAHokie)

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I would not be sad if VT moved on from Babcock
UGAHokie • 08/18/23 01:50 PM ET
Blaming Whit for FB decline is short sighted
gman86 • 08/19/23 05:31 PM ET
If/when the ACC collapses, you'll see how relevant all those others sports
WildTurkE • 08/21/23 01:01 PM ET
Right and no AD is/was going to change those handicaps
QuinnVT • 08/21/23 03:17 PM ET
There is no doubt in my mind when SEC expanded to take aTm, we could ...
Atlee Hokie • 08/26/23 12:00 PM ET
I take the opposite view on Babcock.
Zanderhokie • 08/19/23 09:29 AM ET
He wouldn't have critics if he can restore the football program. Ammo would
NokieHokie • 08/19/23 09:30 AM ET
He got bov and presidents support
Mercury • 08/19/23 08:44 AM ET
Why is your.....
2hhoop3 • 08/19/23 09:42 AM ET
For the love of God, he's not going anywhere **
HokiesACC2004 • 08/18/23 08:00 PM ET
For the Love of VT.. He should have been Gone..**
JRHokie • 08/19/23 06:28 AM ET
Whom do you believe?
VTCALS72 • 08/18/23 07:57 PM ET
Definitely not you. **
Brewing_Hokie • 08/18/23 10:25 PM ET
You can’t handle the truth! J/k. Everyone should form their own opinions. **
Hoakie82 • 08/18/23 11:20 PM ET
There’s the truth and then there’s CALS…..**
Brewing_Hokie • 08/19/23 12:18 AM ET
Well, since there was nothing particularly new in the article that
saret • 08/18/23 09:26 PM ET
No, I just do not believe that Whit is nearly the bad guy this makes him
VTCALS72 • 08/18/23 10:13 PM ET
I don't think the article paints Whit as a ""bad guy."
saret • 08/19/23 08:32 AM ET
Here’s what is true and cannot be spun…..
MontgomeryTexasHokie • 08/19/23 07:13 AM ET
No that is not true
VTCALS72 • 08/19/23 07:42 AM ET
Well, Whit actually is totally in charge of the athletic department’s
RJHokie • 08/19/23 09:37 AM ET
You make too much sense for CALS to comprehend.**
NokieHokie • 08/19/23 12:44 PM ET
You clearly have never been responsible for a P/L larger than your
MontgomeryTexasHokie • 08/19/23 09:19 AM ET
How do you know what Whit's job is? Were you in on the interview process or
NokieHokie • 08/19/23 08:41 AM ET
Methinks you protest too much. **
saret • 08/19/23 08:33 AM ET
So what else is new? I know what you think but respect you anyway.**
VTCALS72 • 08/19/23 08:37 AM ET
Again, Whit gets a Gentleman's C.**
saret • 08/19/23 09:09 AM ET
Yeah, we got to 3-8 because …
VPI63 • 08/19/23 05:56 AM ET
Somewhere in between**
VTCALS72 • 08/19/23 07:43 AM ET
That’s a great perspective - I am suspect iof anything that ESPN writes
sacramento hokie • 08/18/23 08:33 PM ET
I like Babcock ◄
HokieKoch • 08/18/23 07:23 PM ET
Shouldn't it be part of an AD's to do list ...
Atlee Hokie • 08/26/23 11:28 AM ET
Whit should have known where VT stood wrt football and finances
RJHokie • 08/26/23 11:17 AM ET
Wasn’t Beamer after coaching
RiverVT • 08/18/23 08:40 PM ET
Mixed reviews I’d say
HokieKoch • 08/26/23 10:35 AM ET
Whit has done a lot of good- Men BB with Buzz and then Mike Young, Women
VTBoar • 08/18/23 04:39 PM ET
It’s like going to Ruth Chris - The steak was bad but the sides were good
OrlandoHokie • 08/18/23 06:49 PM ET
Couldn’t have said it better myself and yes I ate at RC once and your spot
SCHokie1103 • 08/18/23 09:38 PM ET
Not sure football is #1 in the eyes of some who hold the purse strings
VTCALS72 • 08/18/23 08:01 PM ET
And yet none of that matters financially - sort of his job**
WildTurkE • 08/18/23 04:41 PM ET
Jim Weaver was the ultimate “ balance sheet” guy.. and not sure it was all
sacramento hokie • 08/18/23 06:39 PM ET
i'm quite sure it was far from all good. actually, i'm positive it wasn't**
squarerootofone • 08/18/23 08:38 PM ET
Correction, ultimate income statement guy and similar outcome
soflahokie • 08/18/23 06:44 PM ET
Actually .......
2hhoop3 • 08/18/23 07:01 PM ET
I would reckon you would hate to hear some of the stories
Rationalist • 08/18/23 04:30 PM ET
He should’ve fired the women’s soccer coach.
Hoakie82 • 08/18/23 04:53 PM ET
I know some of the story
Rationalist • 08/18/23 09:07 PM ET
You should goggle it. If we get into it here, it’ll be deleted. **
Hoakie82 • 08/18/23 11:17 PM ET
Oh, I have
Rationalist • 08/19/23 03:44 PM ET
And yet you brought it up anyway**
Gobbler-100 • 08/19/23 05:33 AM ET
Just said the coach should’ve been fired. Didn’t say way. If you dont like
Hoakie82 • 08/20/23 11:04 PM ET
Absolutely!!!***
sacramento hokie • 08/18/23 05:50 PM ET
Oh come on - all of these articles are so fluffed up
NOFX • 08/18/23 03:54 PM ET
I am probably wrong but I significantly blame most of THIS on him....
banishedtothelounge • 08/18/23 03:40 PM ET
Very Inexperience as a Leader
RiverVT • 08/18/23 03:30 PM ET
He's been an AD for over a decade.
Pylons • 08/18/23 05:11 PM ET
In the realignment world, the Sands/Babcock duo are a frightening pair.
UEMcGill • 08/18/23 04:23 PM ET
What options do they have?
HokiesACC2004 • 08/18/23 08:01 PM ET
It's not the leaving part, it's the aftermath of an ACC implosion that is
UEMcGill • 08/18/23 08:59 PM ET
Excellent point - Sands wants to make us Berkeley and Whit I am still on
sacramento hokie • 08/18/23 05:52 PM ET
James Madison is Whit's target**
tallahasseehokie • 08/18/23 10:50 PM ET
I think Purdue is the Sands goal…**
Tuckahokie • 08/18/23 07:43 PM ET
Sort of ironic given our game 2 opponent in Lane.**
seacain • 08/18/23 09:12 PM ET
Yep**
Femoyer Hokie • 08/18/23 09:11 PM ET