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NOFX

I don't understand that part either though

They were straight-up bets on his team to win. If he's betting against them, or even betting them to win and not cover then yes I agree. Other than "it's a slippery slope" what am I missing here?
Posted: 06/09/2026 at 10:50 PM ET
(In response to this post by Hokie622)

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Consider encouraging Virginia Tech to take a stand against Texas Tech
Miller_Time • 06/09/26 07:52 PM ET
VT should take action through the ACC
VT ChemE 1986 • 06/10/26 12:05 PM ET
No way, faster all the rules get broken the faster regulations come back
soflahokie • 06/10/26 10:55 AM ET
CLEARED NIL deals can't include performance incentives
Beerman • 06/10/26 01:24 PM ET
This is another symptom.....
2hhoop3 • 06/10/26 01:44 PM ET
Isn't it just a temp injunction issued by a local judge in...Lubbock, TX?
marcbvtgm • 06/10/26 10:23 AM ET
Heard the lawyer who did Mensah transfer case on SiriusXM said 30 days b4
HoakieBS • 06/10/26 11:53 AM ET
Condoning dysfunction is rampant. Lets see what happens down the road**
ColoVT82 • 06/10/26 10:07 AM ET
Before you get too.......
2hhoop3 • 06/10/26 09:47 AM ET
One of the biggest problems...
The_VT_Rock • 06/10/26 09:30 AM ET
But he also gave $$$ to FRIENDS to place bets for him? 90k over 3 yrs is
HoakieBS • 06/10/26 02:36 PM ET
Given the schools ARE the NCAA, how are you differentiating between the
VTHokie2000 • 06/10/26 11:53 AM ET
I think many would be disappointed to find out how prevalent betting is now
bigbadbird • 06/10/26 08:15 AM ET
It could run the whole sport. If we allow athletes to throw games so that
ChrisLords • 06/10/26 03:44 AM ET
Cheerleaders - **
bigbadbird • 06/10/26 08:22 AM ET
Since you broke the #1 rule...
EDGEMAN • 06/10/26 08:45 AM ET
Nice save, EDGE!**
HokieNL • 06/10/26 10:33 AM ET
there should be an understanding among AP voters
lazarus1 • 06/09/26 10:54 PM ET
The outcry on this has really surprised me
NOFX • 06/09/26 10:09 PM ET
He shook the m$n$y tree**
HokieNL • 06/10/26 10:35 AM ET
All that is awful, and I agree, but this is something within the game that
reestuart • 06/10/26 08:22 AM ET
How does betting FOR your team affect outcomes though?
NOFX • 06/10/26 08:47 AM ET
Say he loses the bet, and lots of other nba, nfl, nhl, cfb, cbb bets and
HoakieBS • 06/10/26 10:47 AM ET
Imagine he bets on his team to cover the spread of 4 points.
Pride_and_Joy • 06/10/26 09:09 AM ET
Again, this is a different argument
NOFX • 06/10/26 09:12 AM ET
Here's a scenario. His team is down by 21 just before halftime. Coach tells
HokieToph • 06/12/26 03:02 PM ET
This could happen with or without a bet
NOFX • 06/14/26 11:09 AM ET
I don't mean to offend you but are you trying to be obtuse? There are
HoustonHokie • 06/10/26 03:42 PM ET
I'm honestly not
NOFX • 06/10/26 06:30 PM ET
Not taking into account "it could lead to this" is looking at his actions
reestuart • 06/11/26 08:24 AM ET
You are making a statement and then praying
VT ChemE 1986 • 06/10/26 12:08 PM ET
Should he be allowed to run a casino out of his dorm? I mean irreparable
bigbadbird • 06/10/26 11:25 AM ET
Again, if he LOSES those bets and gets massively in debt, he becomes prey.
HoakieBS • 06/10/26 10:59 AM ET
It's not different. He bet on his team to win. He gets that TD, and they
reestuart • 06/10/26 09:29 AM ET
It is different. He's talking about a spread bet. I'm only talking ML**
NOFX • 06/10/26 09:33 AM ET
In this scenario, they could win. He throws a pick, and they lose.
reestuart • 06/10/26 09:36 AM ET
That is an excellent point, and a great illustration of some problems...
HokieNL • 06/10/26 10:23 AM ET
I've seen so many crazy plays that changed wager outcomes through the years
reestuart • 06/10/26 10:33 AM ET
Ha - not sure how many other ways I can say it
NOFX • 06/10/26 09:45 AM ET
Fundamentally, I want to agree with you...
HokieNL • 06/10/26 11:24 AM ET
I understand what you are saying. But there are an infinite number of ways
reestuart • 06/10/26 09:58 AM ET
This is why Pete Rose got what he deserved. He was THE manager.
marcbvtgm • 06/10/26 10:29 AM ET
But the athletes who didn't bet are also playing to win
NOFX • 06/10/26 10:28 AM ET
He can "miss" a WR that he has an over wager on. Probably doesn't matter
reestuart • 06/10/26 10:31 AM ET
Again, this is a different bet!!
NOFX • 06/10/26 10:38 AM ET
The problem is.....
2hhoop3 • 06/10/26 09:54 AM ET
He made 40 + bets on IU games. He was only there 2 years, so he clearly
reestuart • 06/10/26 09:59 AM ET
You highlight.....
2hhoop3 • 06/10/26 10:13 AM ET
The BIG has a lot of dirty laundry; this is just one of those pieces. **
RJHokie • 06/10/26 10:31 AM ET
They absolutely need to find out who knew and when. The coaches from
reestuart • 06/10/26 10:30 AM ET
Might explain why the Big Ten is determined to punish Texas Tech for
VTHokie2000 • 06/10/26 12:35 PM ET
Why is that the only kind of bet you're interested in?
Pride_and_Joy • 06/10/26 09:24 AM ET
From what I understood, that was the only kind of bet he placed
NOFX • 06/10/26 09:28 AM ET
Negative bets, prop bets. **
Pride_and_Joy • 06/10/26 09:30 AM ET
It can affect a whole bunch of other wagers. His passing yards for one...
reestuart • 06/10/26 08:52 AM ET
These are all different things - "slippery slope" seems to be the argument
NOFX • 06/10/26 09:00 AM ET
But it's real. He was betting with other people's accounts also.
reestuart • 06/10/26 09:04 AM ET
Yeah idk, I'm missing something I guess
NOFX • 06/10/26 09:11 AM ET
I’m for sure working with my boy at another to rig some bets
soflahokie • 06/10/26 10:59 AM ET
If done right, nobody will ever notice. The FBI watched hours upon hours
reestuart • 06/10/26 11:50 AM ET
prop bets- over/under- betting and not winning and owing - and thus
bigbadbird • 06/10/26 08:50 AM ET
These are all different bets. I talking about a straight up ML on team win**
NOFX • 06/10/26 09:00 AM ET
that's not what he was doing though. He placed prop bets on teammates,
reestuart • 06/10/26 09:07 AM ET
He could quit if he wanted to- he just doesn't want to
bigbadbird • 06/10/26 09:17 AM ET
so you can gamble but only certain bets? what if you split with other team
bigbadbird • 06/10/26 09:06 AM ET
yes they are all scuzballs but you don't bet on your team or your sport,
lazarus1 • 06/09/26 10:56 PM ET
Never Bet against yourself-
bigbadbird • 06/10/26 08:16 AM ET
Curious - would you consider betting against his team worse than betting
NOFX • 06/09/26 10:59 PM ET
I think they're close to equal. **
reestuart • 06/10/26 08:23 AM ET
Equally bad in my opinion**
Hate2SeeItEnd Hokie • 06/10/26 07:07 AM ET
doesn't matter how you bet; if you DON'T bet on your team's upcoming
lazarus1 • 06/09/26 11:05 PM ET
Ahhhhh ok, that's an interesting point**
NOFX • 06/09/26 11:13 PM ET
Well, those other things are about morality. This is a threat to the game.
Hokie622 • 06/09/26 10:39 PM ET
I don't understand that part either though ◄
NOFX • 06/09/26 10:50 PM ET
The 3 judge appellate court in Texas will most likely overturn this
tallahasseehokie • 06/09/26 09:15 PM ET
Does the Court have a scrolling ticker sponsored by FanDuel like ESPN?
bigbadbird • 06/10/26 08:18 AM ET
I wouldn't be so sure...
SMU Pony • 06/09/26 10:59 PM ET
Wonder what UT and aTm have to say about this situation?
VT ChemE 1986 • 06/10/26 12:11 PM ET
And if all they care about is football they’ll uphold it if the care about
D-Day • 06/10/26 01:45 AM ET
apparently though, due to the crowded court docket
lazarus1 • 06/09/26 10:58 PM ET