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AirborneHokie96
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Separate media‑company incentives from conference incentives and structural

reality. ESPN and FOX wanting more P2 access ≠ “P2 should leave the NCAA”. Media companies want: More Big Ten and SEC inventory More high‑rating matchups More predictable brands More control over the postseason But that does NOT mean they want: A breakaway league A P2‑only playoff The destruction of March Madness The collapse of national legitimacy Why? Because a P2‑only postseason is worth less money than a national one. ESPN wants more P2 access within the national structure — not a separate structure. A P2‑only playoff would require: ESPN/FOX to pay MORE for FEWER teams Advertisers to pay MORE for LESS reach Fans to accept LESS national representation That’s not how media economics works. If anything, the networks want: more playoff rounds (more TV/Broadcast slots to fill especially during the holidays more teams, more inventory, more national markets. It’s the same reason the NFL doesn’t cut out half its teams even though Cowboys–Packers draws more than Jaguars–Titans. ESPN pushing for more SEC/B1G access is about ratings, not structure. The Alabama vs. Notre Dame example is a perfect illustration of this. ESPN didn’t “force” Alabama in. They lobbied for a format that: maximizes ratings maximizes brand value maximizes playoff drama That’s not the same as: wanting a P2‑only playoff wanting the Big Ten and SEC to leave the NCAA wanting to eliminate national participation They want the most valuable teams in the biggest possible tournament. A P2‑only playoff shrinks the audience. Not only that, but a P2‑only playoff is worth less money than a national playoff. A national CFP sells: every region every demographic every alumni base every advertiser segment A P2‑only CFP sells: two regions two conferences a narrower demographic fewer markets It’s the difference between the World Cup vs a two‑country invitational. Even if the two countries are Brazil and Germany, the global value collapses. The Big Ten and SEC do NOT gain by leaving the NCAA. They lose March Madness access. They lose national legitimacy. They lose the NCAA’s legal shield. They become the direct defendants in every lawsuit. They fracture their own brands. They reduce the value of the CFP. The Big Ten and SEC are not stupid. They want control, not separation. The likely trajectory is: A CFP format where the Big Ten and SEC get more guaranteed access A governance structure where the P2 have more voting power A revenue model where the P2 take a larger share A national playoff that still includes other conferences Domination, not secession. That’s the model the NFL uses where big brands dominate and small brands still exist. The league stays national. The product stays valuable.
Posted: 01/06/2026 at 01:21 PM ET
(In response to this post by VTHokie2000)

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NCAAF cannot sustain current model for the portal and nil.
Hokieewbib 01/06/26 09:11 AM ET
why? I do not see why they can't as long as their are fans and boosters.
vtox1 01/06/26 07:34 PM ET
The P2 are going to break away from the NCAA governing body
MKD 01/06/26 11:34 AM ET
acc "sailed with the Pilot" long ago. they had their moment in the sun and
HtownHokie 01/06/26 08:53 PM ET
The ACC will not look the same, neither will the B12 nor the P2
VTCALS72 01/06/26 12:13 PM ET
No. They (B10 and SEC) would be very dumb to do that.
AirborneHokie96 01/06/26 11:55 AM ET
We already basically have the B10 + SEC playoffs and they whine because
uber hokie 01/06/26 01:29 PM ET
Coaches and schools need to agree to shift the calendar. They won't.**
reestuart 01/06/26 11:03 AM ET
TV/Broadcast/Streaming is also driving that bus..**
AirborneHokie96 01/06/26 11:10 AM ET
It’s all going to implode. Enjoy it while we have it
fordham 01/06/26 10:11 AM ET
Will enjoy it much more after it implodes and hopefully reason and common
uber hokie 01/06/26 01:32 PM ET
When coaching/staff/admin salaries start to get cut, then we will know
AirborneHokie96 01/06/26 11:11 AM ET
Only get bigger... private equity will replace the wobbly donor model...
Techsupport 01/06/26 10:31 AM ET
Then it will get really ugly. You’ll have private
GCHokieof91 01/06/26 11:54 AM ET
Like Boosters?**
AirborneHokie96 01/06/26 11:56 AM ET
Exactly.**
GCHokieof91 01/06/26 11:56 AM ET
It seems to me that PE is not a year after year cash inflow
VTCALS72 01/06/26 10:41 AM ET
Exactly, on the returns it will want/expect
VTJay 01/06/26 11:35 AM ET
Just drop the C from NCAA.**
likehokies 01/06/26 09:30 AM ET
Probably makes cents to go from being called the National Collegiate
VTHokie2000 01/06/26 10:25 AM ET
How about NPAA
EDGEMAN 01/06/26 10:27 AM ET
NNEPU
TomTurkey 01/06/26 12:30 PM ET
FWIW NPAA is currently being used by the National Professional Anglers
VTHokie2000 01/06/26 10:36 AM ET
So it's available...lol**
EDGEMAN 01/06/26 10:39 AM ET
Yes, I believe the name is available. From a branding perspective though
VTHokie2000 01/06/26 10:47 AM ET
Doesn't one of the As stand for amatuer
crazylane 01/06/26 10:00 AM ET
Break the NCAA monopoly, yes drop the C.
V333T 01/06/26 09:38 AM ET
guess what, separation, programs that can and programs that cant
1947Sunbowl 01/06/26 09:26 AM ET
Exactly - they are saying if you don’t bring 250 mil to the table
uber hokie 01/06/26 01:37 PM ET
Correct**
AirborneHokie96 01/06/26 11:14 AM ET
Need to reduce roster sizes IMO
V333T 01/06/26 09:23 AM ET
I believe roster size will be corrected by the market...
Techsupport 01/06/26 10:39 AM ET
Free market in the NCAA?
V333T 01/06/26 11:12 AM ET
Isn't the advantage the P2s have in the media contracts giving them an
VTHokie2000 01/06/26 11:04 AM ET
What will motivate a Conference like the B10 to flinch?**
AirborneHokie96 01/06/26 11:13 AM ET
They want a bigger slice of the money. Instead of splitting the money pie
VTHokie2000 01/06/26 11:36 AM ET
In 10 years, their slice has grown from $35M per school to $70M per school
AirborneHokie96 01/06/26 11:50 AM ET
ESPN and possibly Fox may disagree with you since they seem to be pushing
VTHokie2000 01/06/26 01:01 PM ET
Separate media‑company incentives from conference incentives and structural
AirborneHokie96 01/06/26 01:21 PM ET
This is exactly right. But if the non-P2 are smart, they use the leverage
VTDC 01/06/26 01:46 PM ET
FWIW DI-FCS offer 63 scholarships in football. If FBS is going to reduce
VTHokie2000 01/06/26 10:21 AM ET