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I think your example with Vick is true but more of the exception than the

rule. Yes, the rules were illegal, but it was good for fans, and they miss it. Both things can be true at the same time. College football was fun because fans could feel like we were a part of it, and there was a unique relationship between players, schools, students, and alumni. We watched players grow from teenagers to professionals. VT would offer at risk and see the reward pay off for everyone (just not a monetary reward for the player at the time). There's a reason families like the Edmunds brothers kept sending their kids here. Virginia Tech was a part of their family. That just doesn't exist like it used to, so college football has lost a lot of its appeal for many. Money has changed the way it works...it has removed some of the loyalty and camaraderie. Some of that camaraderie wasn't real, as it was forced by unlawful NCAA restrictions, but much of it wasn't. The NCAA didn't force Marcus Vick to follow his brother. In the days of NIL, I doubt Marcus would have made the same choice. BTW, I'm not saying the NIL decision was wrong. It's capitalism, and I'm on board. I just also like college football less as a result. Both things are true.
Posted: 05/01/2025 at 12:28 PM ET
(In response to this post by marcbvtgm)

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I always thought college football was special, unlike the NFL.
jonnyhawk 04/28/25 07:04 PM ET
You accurately captured how many of us feel about the changes to the sport
Zanderhokie 04/29/25 12:56 PM ET
Don't forget few opportunities for football and other athletes
Happy Dog 04/30/25 08:54 AM ET
The first rule of College Football is there are are no rules.**
hok1eboy 04/29/25 08:16 PM ET
Paying college athletes was, is and always will be a majesty mistake.
VPI 1924 04/29/25 04:47 PM ET
Indeed. Fans that I use to go to games with that had great parking and
SCHokie1103 04/29/25 01:14 PM ET
Kinda similar at uva, they have added huge premiums to season tickets
HOOBball79 04/30/25 09:04 AM ET
Johnnyhawk
pygmy 04/29/25 12:13 PM ET
The saying used to be there's no "I" in TEAM. Can't use that anymore.
HokieAvalanche 04/29/25 10:37 AM ET
...and there's no Team in 'I'!**
Bburg Mac 05/01/25 04:20 AM ET
lol what is VT's brand? Close but no Cigar**
Technocrat 04/29/25 10:37 AM ET
We had a helluva brand
crazylane 04/29/25 08:16 PM ET
There are a lot of other college sports you could follow
Happy Dog 04/29/25 05:26 AM ET
I've enjoyed watching softball
crazylane 04/29/25 08:18 PM ET
You understand Stanford beat Texas 9-5 THIS year right?
hokiepro 04/29/25 09:52 PM ET
Have you and your wife had the opportunity to watch a pro water polo match?
VTHokie2000 04/29/25 12:58 PM ET
We've seen every level from 10u to D1 to Olympic to pro
Happy Dog 04/29/25 01:28 PM ET
How do they get those horses to swim?**
GCHokieof91 04/29/25 07:02 AM ET
Born that way
Happy Dog 04/29/25 07:32 AM ET
My horse will be disappointed...he was hoping for an NIL package.**
hok1eboy 04/29/25 08:19 PM ET
You’re romanticizing old school college FB.
marcbvtgm 04/28/25 09:38 PM ET
Its a bit of an apple to oranges comparison
RunHokieRun 04/30/25 11:59 AM ET
Right, never been any different than pro football (HUGE EYE ROLL)...
Techsupport 04/29/25 08:35 AM ET
(HUGE EYE ROLL) How about refuting what I wrote with some facts?
marcbvtgm 04/29/25 10:42 AM ET
I think your example with Vick is true but more of the exception than the
Hokie622 05/01/25 12:28 PM ET
Yes players can/could go pro after
crazylane 04/29/25 08:22 PM ET
That's great. Doesn't have anything to do with my original point though.**
marcbvtgm 04/30/25 10:50 AM ET
He has his right to his opinion just like you do. Not everyone agrees
SCHokie1103 04/29/25 08:23 AM ET
Thanks for that insight.
marcbvtgm 04/29/25 10:39 AM ET
No, you're just being a nitpicky contrarian...
Techsupport 04/29/25 11:32 AM ET
Moving goalposts. My point was he was romanticizing old school CFB vs NFL
marcbvtgm 04/30/25 10:46 AM ET
Ok maybe some examples. Let's look at brothers at VT vs NFL
Hokie622 05/01/25 12:32 PM ET
You are 100% right.
crazylane 04/29/25 08:25 PM ET
More lack of reading comprehension.**
marcbvtgm 04/30/25 10:47 AM ET
Couldn’t have said it better myself on what I see and how I feel about what
SCHokie1103 04/28/25 08:04 PM ET
re you not encountering many that like what is going on and the state
Scream_On_D 04/28/25 09:40 PM ET
That’s not even remotely true. **
Pride_and_Joy 04/28/25 10:27 PM ET
Fact**
crazylane 04/29/25 08:27 PM ET
Some of Frank's players were a special quality alright.
TomTurkey 04/28/25 07:45 PM ET