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AirborneHokie96
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AirborneHokie96
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18 years ago?

College football has changed a lot and VT football fell behind so much that it has no chance to catch up.
Posted: 07/14/2025 at 09:02 PM ET
(In response to this post by Pylons)

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How far has our FB program declined in the past 15 years (%?)
Spider73 • 07/12/25 10:10 AM ET
50% - almost unwatchable**
VTGungHO • 07/15/25 01:20 PM ET
until there is a salary CAP in place for every D1 Football team we are gone**
VTGungHO • 07/15/25 01:21 PM ET
A salary cap is certainly needed........
2hhoop3 • 07/15/25 01:30 PM ET
Almost as far as I have**
OldRetiredHokie • 07/14/25 10:38 PM ET
2025....The Summer of our discontent**
Tuckahokie • 07/14/25 06:40 AM ET
The "good" days are gone. Wait out the NFL farm league and reconstitute
40ozDistrict • 07/13/25 02:31 AM ET
If they do that right, it could be cool
WestyHokie • 07/13/25 07:29 PM ET
Honestly wouldn't blame the department for waiting to see where they land
Synaesthesia • 07/13/25 03:41 PM ET
Make Division 3 great again.
VPI 1924 • 07/13/25 01:13 PM ET
your communist ideology is getting old**
Windows NT • 07/13/25 03:20 PM ET
I wouldn't call that communist **
HokiesACC2004 • 07/15/25 06:10 AM ET
Come on. Pre-NIL the scholly kids were getting a pretty sweet deal. **
40ozDistrict • 07/13/25 07:32 PM ET
Nope. Illegal af preventing NIL**
Brewing_Hokie • 07/14/25 10:24 PM ET
Eliminating non-revenue sports as an attempt to keep football somewhat
GSOHokie01 • 07/12/25 09:36 PM ET
You're half right, but an AT-LARGE Sugar Bowl bid in 2011 is not irrelevant**
Techsupport • 07/14/25 03:39 PM ET
I disagree. Two at-large teams that couldn’t take care of conference…
GSOHokie01 • 07/15/25 06:07 PM ET
Non-auto bids are the biggest sign of respect you can get...
Techsupport • 07/16/25 09:28 AM ET
Wasn’t that the goal by installing an empty trophy case?
GSOHokie01 • 07/16/25 05:55 PM ET
We were #3 in the BCS standings at the end of the 2007 regular season**
Pylons • 07/13/25 01:26 PM ET
18 years ago? ◄
AirborneHokie96 • 07/14/25 09:02 PM ET
Wasn't claiming it does. See: context.**
Pylons • 07/14/25 10:57 PM ET
As Yogi Berra said.......
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 09:31 PM ET
To me...the barrier to a high level of success at a sustained level now
AirborneHokie96 • 07/15/25 09:15 AM ET
I agree.......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/25 11:24 AM ET
Good pick up. No oversight over Dooley/Babcock, and no
saret • 07/14/25 09:56 PM ET
The irony IMO......
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 10:03 PM ET
But he had Ballein……….😂**
RJHokie • 07/14/25 10:10 PM ET
Good correlation there!**
RJHokie • 07/14/25 09:35 PM ET
We were but we were never going to have the opportunity to play for jt.
GSOHokie01 • 07/13/25 03:22 PM ET
Ah, Kansas game. Beamer's confessional game.
Atlee Hokie • 07/15/25 08:42 AM ET
I hear you and remember it well
Pylons • 07/13/25 03:36 PM ET
At the end of the season, the rankings got it right.
GSOHokie01 • 07/13/25 03:52 PM ET
The Kansas game was a give away by Beamer and company. We were better than**
Atlee Hokie • 07/15/25 08:44 AM ET
Got it. Pretty small circle of national relevance there.**
Pylons • 07/13/25 09:31 PM ET
Yeah but that was also one of the most frenetic CFB seasons, ever
Synaesthesia • 07/13/25 03:12 PM ET
I was simply responding to what seemed like a mischaracterization. 🤷🏼
Pylons • 07/13/25 03:21 PM ET
VT cannot do it as a member of the ACC. We have to have a certain number
AirborneHokie96 • 07/13/25 10:26 AM ET
Depends on your definition....
2hhoop3 • 07/13/25 08:50 AM ET
CFB lived on the mantra, "we won 10 games".
Atlee Hokie • 07/13/25 04:31 AM ET
ǐ remember when the board complained
flymanhokie • 07/13/25 03:35 PM ET
Those 10-win seasons left a lot of wins on the table due to Frank's crap O.**
NokieHokie • 07/13/25 10:40 PM ET
Granted.........
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 07:06 AM ET
You are right but it was the ones he lost that hurt VT badly
dnfoster • 07/14/25 08:57 AM ET
Yours is not an uncommon.....
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 09:43 AM ET
I am not a pessimist about VT football. Check my history on the subscriber
dnfoster • 07/14/25 06:23 PM ET
I didn't call you.....
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 08:00 PM ET
I loved the ten wins. I just wished Beamer had tried to get to the ...
Atlee Hokie • 07/13/25 07:44 PM ET
He thought he could...
TomTurkey • 07/14/25 02:56 PM ET
"Schedule for Success"**
AirborneHokie96 • 07/13/25 10:26 AM ET
I’d love to see 10 win seasons again **
hokiepro • 07/13/25 08:11 AM ET
...MV3 (needs to happen)❣
bourbonstreet • 07/12/25 09:35 PM ET
Disagree
83hokieee • 07/13/25 10:09 AM ET
With you until last clause, "...if we did,..."
TomTurkey • 07/13/25 10:48 AM ET
OK, Maybe not MV3,
83hokieee • 07/14/25 09:22 AM ET
Granted 👍**
TomTurkey • 07/14/25 09:25 AM ET
Yep we need a difference maker
hokiepro • 07/13/25 09:31 AM ET
that's really well said... will be borrowing (flooring) that----->**
bourbonstreet • 07/13/25 06:49 PM ET
Those types of athletes will command huge contracts at P2 schools **
AirborneHokie96 • 07/13/25 10:29 AM ET
yep. if we find a difference maker, it will be a one-year difference maker
GusDaMan • 07/14/25 03:30 PM ET
He would probably skip a bowl game to not risk injury...
AirborneHokie96 • 07/14/25 09:00 PM ET
this guy maybe?**
ancient alien 2018 • 07/13/25 12:49 AM ET
None of the above**
AirborneHokie96 • 07/12/25 09:25 PM ET
New AD**
Stech • 07/12/25 06:18 PM ET
I agree but I Think it's more !
RiverVT • 07/12/25 08:11 PM ET
Appears to be Sands
VT Rockie • 07/13/25 06:43 PM ET
Maybe Trump put a boot up Sands butt like he did UVas
RiverVT • 07/13/25 07:35 PM ET
Like yesterday…..
RJHokie • 07/12/25 06:25 PM ET
Yep, he needs to recognize the world has changed, same with BOV & Pres
Stech • 07/12/25 06:46 PM ET
First $$$$ in NIL, then coaches can buy the players, today isn't like
hokie_world • 07/12/25 04:51 PM ET
We have better players on OL
hokiepro • 07/12/25 08:24 PM ET
and last year, we were an ACC Championship team in July too.... **
AirborneHokie96 • 07/12/25 09:35 PM ET
30% - to fix: get $$$$**
NOFX • 07/12/25 04:38 PM ET
A good head coach can make up for other weaknesses **
OrlandoHokie • 07/12/25 02:27 PM ET
VT can't fix even half the gap even if they killed every non-football sport**
Synaesthesia • 07/12/25 12:00 PM ET
...and can't kill every non-Rev because of ACC commitment**
AirborneHokie96 • 07/12/25 09:29 PM ET
1st realize we were only relevant during the Beamer Bubble.
VTCALS72 • 07/12/25 11:32 AM ET
Wrong as usual........
2hhoop3 • 07/12/25 11:49 AM ET
Following since early 70s I can't disagree with you more. It was a bubble
40ozDistrict • 07/13/25 02:36 AM ET
Correct. Those days are long gone in today's college football environment**
AirborneHokie96 • 07/13/25 10:23 AM ET
Disagree as you wish.....
2hhoop3 • 07/13/25 07:30 AM ET
I still vote for Va Tech to go Division 3.
VPI 1924 • 07/12/25 11:40 AM ET
Disagree **
HokiesACC2004 • 07/15/25 06:11 AM ET
Doubt we would win that championship either.**
Coattail Hokie • 07/12/25 06:54 PM ET
D3 athletes have NIL deals too, especially in lacrosse**
BROman Hokie • 07/12/25 11:52 AM ET
Generally speaking, DIII athletes don't have the same visibility as DI
VTHokie2000 • 07/14/25 06:30 PM ET