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2hhoop3
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Wrong as usual........

catching lightning in a bottle for a single year does not imply sustainability but, decade(s) of performance actually demonstrates sustainability. Calling the Beamer era a bubble is both disrespectful to the actual accomplishments and ignorant of the effort involved in building that string. You of all people should realize that Amptech given your years of defending Stinespring. Whether that occurs or not is up to the actions/decisions of the institution and its fans. The longer and farther you allow something to fall the more difficult it becomes to regain the former level.
Posted: 07/12/2025 at 11:49 AM ET
(In response to this post by VTCALS72)

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How far has our FB program declined in the past 15 years (%?)
Spider73 • 07/12/25 10:10 AM ET
50% - almost unwatchable**
VTGungHO • 07/15/25 01:20 PM ET
until there is a salary CAP in place for every D1 Football team we are gone**
VTGungHO • 07/15/25 01:21 PM ET
A salary cap is certainly needed........
2hhoop3 • 07/15/25 01:30 PM ET
Almost as far as I have**
OldRetiredHokie • 07/14/25 10:38 PM ET
2025....The Summer of our discontent**
Tuckahokie • 07/14/25 06:40 AM ET
The "good" days are gone. Wait out the NFL farm league and reconstitute
40ozDistrict • 07/13/25 02:31 AM ET
If they do that right, it could be cool
WestyHokie • 07/13/25 07:29 PM ET
Honestly wouldn't blame the department for waiting to see where they land
Synaesthesia • 07/13/25 03:41 PM ET
Make Division 3 great again.
VPI 1924 • 07/13/25 01:13 PM ET
your communist ideology is getting old**
Windows NT • 07/13/25 03:20 PM ET
I wouldn't call that communist **
HokiesACC2004 • 07/15/25 06:10 AM ET
Come on. Pre-NIL the scholly kids were getting a pretty sweet deal. **
40ozDistrict • 07/13/25 07:32 PM ET
Nope. Illegal af preventing NIL**
Brewing_Hokie • 07/14/25 10:24 PM ET
Eliminating non-revenue sports as an attempt to keep football somewhat
GSOHokie01 • 07/12/25 09:36 PM ET
You're half right, but an AT-LARGE Sugar Bowl bid in 2011 is not irrelevant**
Techsupport • 07/14/25 03:39 PM ET
I disagree. Two at-large teams that couldn’t take care of conference…
GSOHokie01 • 07/15/25 06:07 PM ET
Non-auto bids are the biggest sign of respect you can get...
Techsupport • 07/16/25 09:28 AM ET
Wasn’t that the goal by installing an empty trophy case?
GSOHokie01 • 07/16/25 05:55 PM ET
We were #3 in the BCS standings at the end of the 2007 regular season**
Pylons • 07/13/25 01:26 PM ET
18 years ago?
AirborneHokie96 • 07/14/25 09:02 PM ET
Wasn't claiming it does. See: context.**
Pylons • 07/14/25 10:57 PM ET
As Yogi Berra said.......
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 09:31 PM ET
To me...the barrier to a high level of success at a sustained level now
AirborneHokie96 • 07/15/25 09:15 AM ET
I agree.......
2hhoop3 • 07/15/25 11:24 AM ET
Good pick up. No oversight over Dooley/Babcock, and no
saret • 07/14/25 09:56 PM ET
The irony IMO......
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 10:03 PM ET
But he had Ballein……….😂**
RJHokie • 07/14/25 10:10 PM ET
Good correlation there!**
RJHokie • 07/14/25 09:35 PM ET
We were but we were never going to have the opportunity to play for jt.
GSOHokie01 • 07/13/25 03:22 PM ET
Ah, Kansas game. Beamer's confessional game.
Atlee Hokie • 07/15/25 08:42 AM ET
I hear you and remember it well
Pylons • 07/13/25 03:36 PM ET
At the end of the season, the rankings got it right.
GSOHokie01 • 07/13/25 03:52 PM ET
The Kansas game was a give away by Beamer and company. We were better than**
Atlee Hokie • 07/15/25 08:44 AM ET
Got it. Pretty small circle of national relevance there.**
Pylons • 07/13/25 09:31 PM ET
Yeah but that was also one of the most frenetic CFB seasons, ever
Synaesthesia • 07/13/25 03:12 PM ET
I was simply responding to what seemed like a mischaracterization. 🤷🏼
Pylons • 07/13/25 03:21 PM ET
VT cannot do it as a member of the ACC. We have to have a certain number
AirborneHokie96 • 07/13/25 10:26 AM ET
Depends on your definition....
2hhoop3 • 07/13/25 08:50 AM ET
CFB lived on the mantra, "we won 10 games".
Atlee Hokie • 07/13/25 04:31 AM ET
ǐ remember when the board complained
flymanhokie • 07/13/25 03:35 PM ET
Those 10-win seasons left a lot of wins on the table due to Frank's crap O.**
NokieHokie • 07/13/25 10:40 PM ET
Granted.........
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 07:06 AM ET
You are right but it was the ones he lost that hurt VT badly
dnfoster • 07/14/25 08:57 AM ET
Yours is not an uncommon.....
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 09:43 AM ET
I am not a pessimist about VT football. Check my history on the subscriber
dnfoster • 07/14/25 06:23 PM ET
I didn't call you.....
2hhoop3 • 07/14/25 08:00 PM ET
I loved the ten wins. I just wished Beamer had tried to get to the ...
Atlee Hokie • 07/13/25 07:44 PM ET
He thought he could...
TomTurkey • 07/14/25 02:56 PM ET
"Schedule for Success"**
AirborneHokie96 • 07/13/25 10:26 AM ET
I’d love to see 10 win seasons again **
hokiepro • 07/13/25 08:11 AM ET
...MV3 (needs to happen)❣
bourbonstreet • 07/12/25 09:35 PM ET
Disagree
83hokieee • 07/13/25 10:09 AM ET
With you until last clause, "...if we did,..."
TomTurkey • 07/13/25 10:48 AM ET
OK, Maybe not MV3,
83hokieee • 07/14/25 09:22 AM ET
Granted 👍**
TomTurkey • 07/14/25 09:25 AM ET
Yep we need a difference maker
hokiepro • 07/13/25 09:31 AM ET
that's really well said... will be borrowing (flooring) that----->**
bourbonstreet • 07/13/25 06:49 PM ET
Those types of athletes will command huge contracts at P2 schools **
AirborneHokie96 • 07/13/25 10:29 AM ET
yep. if we find a difference maker, it will be a one-year difference maker
GusDaMan • 07/14/25 03:30 PM ET
He would probably skip a bowl game to not risk injury...
AirborneHokie96 • 07/14/25 09:00 PM ET
this guy maybe?**
ancient alien 2018 • 07/13/25 12:49 AM ET
None of the above**
AirborneHokie96 • 07/12/25 09:25 PM ET
New AD**
Stech • 07/12/25 06:18 PM ET
I agree but I Think it's more !
RiverVT • 07/12/25 08:11 PM ET
Appears to be Sands
VT Rockie • 07/13/25 06:43 PM ET
Maybe Trump put a boot up Sands butt like he did UVas
RiverVT • 07/13/25 07:35 PM ET
Like yesterday…..
RJHokie • 07/12/25 06:25 PM ET
Yep, he needs to recognize the world has changed, same with BOV & Pres
Stech • 07/12/25 06:46 PM ET
First $$$$ in NIL, then coaches can buy the players, today isn't like
hokie_world • 07/12/25 04:51 PM ET
We have better players on OL
hokiepro • 07/12/25 08:24 PM ET
and last year, we were an ACC Championship team in July too.... **
AirborneHokie96 • 07/12/25 09:35 PM ET
30% - to fix: get $$$$**
NOFX • 07/12/25 04:38 PM ET
A good head coach can make up for other weaknesses **
OrlandoHokie • 07/12/25 02:27 PM ET
VT can't fix even half the gap even if they killed every non-football sport**
Synaesthesia • 07/12/25 12:00 PM ET
...and can't kill every non-Rev because of ACC commitment**
AirborneHokie96 • 07/12/25 09:29 PM ET
1st realize we were only relevant during the Beamer Bubble.
VTCALS72 • 07/12/25 11:32 AM ET
Wrong as usual........ ◄
2hhoop3 • 07/12/25 11:49 AM ET
Following since early 70s I can't disagree with you more. It was a bubble
40ozDistrict • 07/13/25 02:36 AM ET
Correct. Those days are long gone in today's college football environment**
AirborneHokie96 • 07/13/25 10:23 AM ET
Disagree as you wish.....
2hhoop3 • 07/13/25 07:30 AM ET
I still vote for Va Tech to go Division 3.
VPI 1924 • 07/12/25 11:40 AM ET
Disagree **
HokiesACC2004 • 07/15/25 06:11 AM ET
Doubt we would win that championship either.**
Coattail Hokie • 07/12/25 06:54 PM ET
D3 athletes have NIL deals too, especially in lacrosse**
BROman Hokie • 07/12/25 11:52 AM ET
Generally speaking, DIII athletes don't have the same visibility as DI
VTHokie2000 • 07/14/25 06:30 PM ET