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One4VT
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One4VT

Coaches move on either to another job or being fired....

Being afraid to cut the cord (and/or offering a new contract at the 1st sign of success) is myopic when you just look at the stark reality of how coaching careers work
Posted: 09/23/2024 at 09:33 AM ET
(In response to this post by fordham)

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Does the fact that Lane Stadium is full week after week...
radford Hokie • 09/23/24 08:09 AM ET
It doesn’t sound like you really like Pry.**
hokienole • 09/23/24 10:39 AM ET
I like Pry as a guy. I dislike him as a HC. He's paid to be a HC, not a guy**
NokieHokie • 09/23/24 02:07 PM ET
I like Pry.. I don't like mediocre, which is what VT has become.
radford Hokie • 09/23/24 11:50 AM ET
Pry is what we get for what we pay. It’s as simple as that. If message
uber hokie • 09/23/24 04:05 PM ET
No. Pry is what we get because of what Whit previously paid.**
NokieHokie • 09/23/24 04:25 PM ET
Whatever , my point is the very best coaches go to the highest paying
uber hokie • 09/23/24 07:12 PM ET
That's a bunch of garbage. We pay enough to get better than what we got.**
NokieHokie • 09/23/24 07:13 PM ET
Don’t let facts get in you way.Pry is the 12 highest coach in ACC. He’s
uber hokie • 09/23/24 07:41 PM ET
Facts are at the time of hiring, Bowen and Marve made good salaries, well
NokieHokie • 09/23/24 08:02 PM ET
So when did we start talking coordinators ? Only name I’ve seen mentioned
uber hokie • 09/23/24 08:35 PM ET
Here's more facts for you: 2022 Pry made $4m, Shane in the SEC made $2.75.
NokieHokie • 09/23/24 11:56 PM ET
One slight flaw in your FACT in 2023 Shane received a 122% raise making his
uber hokie • 09/25/24 07:55 AM ET
That doesn't change my fact and it's not a flaw. The point is they started
NokieHokie • 09/25/24 07:58 AM ET
The only fact I’m making is this - Pry’s salary ranks in the lower half of
uber hokie • 09/25/24 08:44 AM ET
It should. He's not a good coach.**
NokieHokie • 09/25/24 08:52 AM ET
Pry's salary was overpaid too. Whit had to overpay since he's damaged goods
NokieHokie • 09/23/24 08:37 PM ET
I totally agree with everything that you said. It’s put up or shut up
hokie18 • 09/23/24 01:44 PM ET
we are top fan base as far as TV viewership and game attendance but we are
hokiehill1117 • 09/23/24 10:20 AM ET
A fan base of what?
VPI63 • 09/23/24 10:59 AM ET
He've been a 6-6 team since long before NIL. Not sure your point holds up.**
NokieHokie • 09/23/24 02:09 PM ET
I don't know ... these guys look like losing bothers them.**
Will StewartAdmin • 09/23/24 01:58 PM ET
Looks more like resignation/realization that they suck**
MDHokie79 • 09/23/24 02:09 PM ET
Or that their coaches suck.**
NokieHokie • 09/23/24 02:11 PM ET
Yeah, there's THAT!**
MDHokie79 • 09/23/24 04:23 PM ET
Of course it does. The coaches are letting the athletes down far worse than
King of Hokies • 09/23/24 02:04 PM ET
$$$ without accountability has been a staple of college coaching for years.
Gobbler Guru • 09/23/24 01:31 PM ET
Agree....too much angst about $$$$
Virginian42 • 09/23/24 12:29 PM ET
I go to games to hang with friends and go to rock'n tailgates
Hokie Koooster • 09/23/24 11:46 AM ET
no offense... but this is basically what I referred to in another post
radford Hokie • 09/23/24 12:12 PM ET
SEC fanbase, SunBelt team...**
banishedtothelounge • 09/23/24 09:44 AM ET
Our fan base is NO WHERE CLOSE to the rabid idiots
uber hokie • 09/23/24 04:21 PM ET
I have attended games at 6 or 7 SEC venues... & multiple SECCGs
banishedtothelounge • 09/24/24 09:27 AM ET
That is the Saturday experience but that’s not all there is to it.
uber hokie • 09/25/24 07:51 AM ET
I guess I was referring to gameday experience, and travel... Still
banishedtothelounge • 09/25/24 10:37 AM ET
Big South TV market**
WildTurkE • 09/23/24 10:10 AM ET
There is no tv market anymore with streaming taking over **
3TechFanz • 09/23/24 10:28 AM ET
Miss the days of Jefferson Pilot and Doc Walker
Pride_and_Joy • 09/23/24 11:58 AM ET
I also miss Doc...plus we won a bunch of games that he called**
Tuckahokie • 09/23/24 12:10 PM ET
Firing the coaching staff every three years is a recipe for failure
fordham • 09/23/24 08:55 AM ET
We heard these same tired comments during the Fuente "era".
Gobbler Guru • 09/23/24 01:39 PM ET
So is failure**
Techsupport • 09/23/24 11:19 AM ET
Failure is relative. It can get worse.**
marcbvtgm • 09/23/24 12:59 PM ET
VT is following.......
2hhoop3 • 09/23/24 01:19 PM ET
There is no reason whatsoever to fire Pry if ...
Atlee Hokie • 09/23/24 02:13 PM ET
Yep. All he’ll do is hire another dud and we’re right back to the same old **
Zanderhokie • 09/23/24 07:30 PM ET
It's a recipe for not attracting a quality coaching staff
Happy Dog • 09/23/24 10:22 AM ET
Coaches move on either to another job or being fired.... ◄
One4VT • 09/23/24 09:33 AM ET
Yes and carousel coaches has proven to not
fordham • 09/23/24 10:09 AM ET
You seem to think it's best to stick with a bad hire because the next one
HoustonHokie • 09/23/24 02:49 PM ET
Your coach is either winning or not
One4VT • 09/23/24 10:42 AM ET
But let's fire everyone anyway. Including all of the players. Even the
dj97223 • 09/23/24 10:25 AM ET
Raze Burruss - storm the Bastille **
TomTurkey • 09/23/24 11:51 AM ET
It worked for Frank Beamer.
Truthahn • 09/23/24 10:23 AM ET
You are correct on all accounts. Unfortunately its all about the $ now
uber hokie • 09/23/24 09:22 AM ET
You are not alone…**
23434 • 09/23/24 10:20 AM ET
maybe Pry just needs another couple of years to turn it around**
kingofcassell • 09/23/24 09:16 AM ET
I don't think Lane is going to be full going forward
kingofcassell • 09/23/24 08:53 AM ET
Good thing the U and Stanford are away**
TomTurkey • 09/23/24 09:41 AM ET
That would be great. More leg room, much shorter concession stand lines
fordham • 09/23/24 09:00 AM ET
Unfortunately all those “mores” means a lot of “ lesses -less $ for
uber hokie • 09/23/24 09:26 AM ET
Reality tho is until we go buy our players as
fordham • 09/23/24 10:06 AM ET
You think Babcock should make decisions based on a month's performance?
VTCALS72 • 09/23/24 08:42 AM ET
Babcock doesn't have an A list budget..
Techsupport • 09/23/24 11:49 AM ET
Dave Braine gave Frank Beamer seven years to get it right
Hokie1992 • 09/23/24 10:11 AM ET
Of course, Frank inherited a NCAA penalty gutted team.**
Atlee Hokie • 09/23/24 02:06 PM ET
One month? We're in year 3. Time flies when you are perpetually mediocre.**
JLuge76 • 09/23/24 10:00 AM ET
I didn't say fire Pry... but he to make some adjustments somewhere
radford Hokie • 09/23/24 09:24 AM ET
It...
khakiblue • 09/23/24 09:00 AM ET
In reality it HAS
VTCALS72 • 09/23/24 11:09 AM ET
We're a pretty solid program if you just ignore the results
HptHokie • 09/23/24 02:04 PM ET
Pressure would need to come from group of largest donors. Doubt it happens.**
hokie77 • 09/23/24 08:19 AM ET
The largest donors for Frank were hugely loyal. Were part of the problem.**
TomTurkey • 09/23/24 09:43 AM ET