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Here's the thing, every year there's only 6 to 11 teams with 11+ wins
I'm talking about at the end of the regular season heading into the postseason, after conference championships but before playoffs and bowl games, and only teams in the top 25. This thing talks about teams "in the discussion," but realistically the only way a 10-win team is going to make the playoffs, without getting an autobid from winning their conference, is if they're a huge name program (also they probably needed to at least play for their conference championship game). Like, to just pull an example off this chart, could 10-win Ohio State beat out 11-win Virginia Tech if the field was really wonky that year (wonky field as in, all the good 12-win teams lost their conference championship to some 8 or 9 win team)? Yeah, sure. Is 10-win Northwestern, or Boston College, or Virginia (lol) going to beat out 11-win Virginia Tech for a spot? Not a chance, the playoffs are still primarily about creating the most compelling content for television, and the average person who doesn't care about any of these schools would rather see Virginia Tech or North Carolina than Wake Forest or Bowling Green.
Also remember that the vast majority of those teams that win 11 or more in any given season win their conference championships too, they're going to get an autobid. 2017's week 15 rankings are an example of what most normal years look like. 2021's week 15 is the extreme unusual case (autobid taken by mid-major, huge glut of 10+ win teams in the top 25).
Thread Replies (55)
For anyone dreaming of playoffs, here is a reality check
-- HokieAl
Jul 03, 2024 at 10:35 PM ET
HokieAl
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07/03/24 10:35 PM ET
“PLAYOFFS ? PLAYOFFS ? “ Jim Mora is on line 1
-- uber hokie
Jul 06, 2024 at 09:23 AM ET
uber hokie
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07/06/24 09:23 AM ET
I just looked up Florida's schedule; ouch!!**
-- VTfisherman
Jul 05, 2024 at 10:16 PM ET
VTfisherman
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07/05/24 10:16 PM ET
Hoos only need 10 and ND and VT need 11?
-- SarahVTHokie24
Jul 05, 2024 at 12:22 PM ET
SarahVTHokie24
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07/05/24 12:22 PM ET
There is no way hoos get in with 10 unless SEC and B10 really crap the bed
-- 83Hokie
Jul 05, 2024 at 03:19 PM ET
83Hokie
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07/05/24 03:19 PM ET
I think they meant 10 wins over 3 seasons. Still a challenge. **
-- Blueboy
Jul 06, 2024 at 12:19 AM ET
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07/06/24 12:19 AM ET
Based on schedule strength projections **
-- hokiepro
Jul 05, 2024 at 02:15 PM ET
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07/05/24 02:15 PM ET
Make sense when you look at Gators schedule, some surprise me though
-- AirForceHokie77
Jul 05, 2024 at 11:25 AM ET
AirForceHokie77
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07/05/24 11:25 AM ET
I expect all at-large bids to go to the P2 + ND.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 05, 2024 at 09:54 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/05/24 09:54 AM ET
Theoretically the top 12 teams in the ranking enter the CFP
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jul 06, 2024 at 11:14 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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07/06/24 11:14 AM ET
I'm sure they'll have a token "at large" bid every few years...lol**
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 05, 2024 at 11:00 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/05/24 11:00 AM ET
totally agree. our schedule is no good. so just win them
-- proudhokie2001
Jul 04, 2024 at 07:44 PM ET
proudhokie2001
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07/04/24 07:44 PM ET
The one Loss in ACCCG or reg season?**
-- 83Hokie
Jul 05, 2024 at 03:24 PM ET
83Hokie
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07/05/24 03:24 PM ET
Let’s just first win at Vandy…….**
-- Spider73
Jul 04, 2024 at 03:36 PM ET
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07/04/24 03:36 PM ET
Too complicated to apply an absolute number of wins. Losing the ACC title
-- UEMcGill
Jul 04, 2024 at 02:43 PM ET
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07/04/24 02:43 PM ET
No way a 9 win Vandy, GT, or USCe get in over a 11 win VT. **
-- BamBam
Jul 04, 2024 at 01:41 PM ET
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07/04/24 01:41 PM ET
If we have 11 wins, it’s most likely that Vandy & GT won’t have 9. They
-- Hokie`79
Jul 05, 2024 at 05:42 AM ET
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07/05/24 05:42 AM ET
It would be a miracle for Vandy to have 9 wins...lol**
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 05, 2024 at 11:01 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/05/24 11:01 AM ET
just hope we win enough to be in the conversation
-- tallahasseehokie
Jul 04, 2024 at 01:03 PM ET
tallahasseehokie
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07/04/24 01:03 PM ET
No different than 1999.
-- GCHokieof91
Jul 04, 2024 at 11:02 AM ET
GCHokieof91
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07/04/24 11:02 AM ET
That was just 2 teams though**
-- hokiepro
Jul 04, 2024 at 06:20 PM ET
hokiepro
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07/04/24 06:20 PM ET
Here's the thing, every year there's only 6 to 11 teams with 11+ wins
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-- Synaesthesia
Jul 04, 2024 at 09:50 AM ET
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07/04/24 09:50 AM ET
We need to get back to ACC championship games to get to playoff
-- hokiepro
Jul 04, 2024 at 08:54 AM ET
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07/04/24 08:54 AM ET
I'm glad to see ND at 11.**
-- Joe Hokie
Jul 04, 2024 at 08:44 AM ET
Joe Hokie
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07/04/24 08:44 AM ET
Sounds about right...we aren't there.... YET**
-- HOKIERIT
Jul 04, 2024 at 08:33 AM ET
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07/04/24 08:33 AM ET
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
-- Hokie1992
Jul 04, 2024 at 08:28 AM ET
Hokie1992
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07/04/24 08:28 AM ET
The Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor. That was the Japanese.**
-- HokieSpartan
Jul 04, 2024 at 01:27 PM ET
HokieSpartan
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07/04/24 01:27 PM ET
Whoosh!!! Oh how soon popular culture expires.**
-- Culpeper Hokie
Jul 04, 2024 at 07:01 PM ET
Culpeper Hokie
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07/04/24 07:01 PM ET
Soon? That movie was released closer to Pearl Harbor than to today....**
-- RTFC
Jul 05, 2024 at 11:37 AM ET
RTFC
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07/05/24 11:37 AM ET
Man, let us enjoy hope **
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Jul 03, 2024 at 11:47 PM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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07/03/24 11:47 PM ET
Wow. UVA needs "only" 10 wins to make playoff. **
-- VTBoar
Jul 04, 2024 at 07:15 AM ET
VTBoar
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07/04/24 07:15 AM ET
UVa has only won 10 games once (1989)**
-- Hokie1992
Jul 04, 2024 at 08:31 AM ET
Hokie1992
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07/04/24 08:31 AM ET
My favorite coffee mug**
-- Jbohokie63
Jul 04, 2024 at 10:42 AM ET
Jbohokie63
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07/04/24 10:42 AM ET
Jefferson’s Biggest Mistake!**
-- HokiesChemicals
Jul 04, 2024 at 06:50 PM ET
HokiesChemicals
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07/04/24 06:50 PM ET
And here is their projected playoff for what it’s worth
-- HokieAl
Jul 03, 2024 at 10:39 PM ET
HokieAl
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07/03/24 10:39 PM ET
Pfffffttt. Sure. Boise State is better than ...
-- Will Stewart
Jul 04, 2024 at 04:04 PM ET
Will Stewart
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07/04/24 04:04 PM ET
Only way ro be assured - win rhe acc**
-- 1947Sunbowl
Jul 04, 2024 at 09:30 AM ET
1947Sunbowl
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07/04/24 09:30 AM ET
Is there an agreed upon formula?
-- tallahasseehokie
Jul 04, 2024 at 12:00 AM ET
tallahasseehokie
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07/04/24 12:00 AM ET
And a huge factor is that the “top 25 ranking)
-- Hokie1992
Jul 04, 2024 at 08:51 AM ET
Hokie1992
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07/04/24 08:51 AM ET
Ford should get a real job........
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 03, 2024 at 10:45 PM ET
2hhoop3
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07/03/24 10:45 PM ET
I do agree that a 10 or 11 win ND gets in
-- HokieAl
Jul 04, 2024 at 09:03 AM ET
HokieAl
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07/04/24 09:03 AM ET
Absolutely agree. Analytics are good for predicting scores or wins
-- HokieAl
Jul 04, 2024 at 09:43 AM ET
HokieAl
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07/04/24 09:43 AM ET
Not to mention that not all wins are equal...
-- MP4VT2004
Jul 04, 2024 at 08:53 PM ET
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07/04/24 08:53 PM ET