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Boomers and Gen X’ers love free market capitalism
and like to decry socialism but then whine and cry when their favorite entertainment option changes because they moved closer to a free market.
It’s the fan’s fault. We value college athletics so much that we helped to create a gargantuan industry that, given their dirt cheap labor, were putting money into useless miniature golf courses and lazy rivers so they could continue to recruit future dirt cheap labor. The bubble burst, here we are… Has it made following the players and understanding the next year’s roster infinitely more annoying. It sure has, but I’m not going to blame it on stud athletes that never had to worry about participation trophies like our genetically inferior children did…
Thread Replies (61)
So many players in the Portal because of the Participation Trophy Generatio
-- Hokey Pokey
Dec 08, 2023 at 07:38 AM ET
Hokey Pokey
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12/08/23 07:38 AM ET
OMG, every student who transfers also must be a loser!
-- dj97223
Dec 08, 2023 at 06:36 PM ET
dj97223
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12/08/23 06:36 PM ET
Like when you change jobs when you aren't happy?
-- HokiesACC2004
Dec 08, 2023 at 05:43 PM ET
HokiesACC2004
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12/08/23 05:43 PM ET
No. Everyone is in the portal because there is full time free agency. The
-- 97Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 03:08 PM ET
97Hokie
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12/08/23 03:08 PM ET
that's not a fair statement at all. Not remotely true for the most part.
-- reestuart
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:18 AM ET
reestuart
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12/08/23 11:18 AM ET
It interferes with one's fandom
-- Beerman
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:26 AM ET
Beerman
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12/08/23 11:26 AM ET
I agree with the spirit of your post, but I don't think you can compare...
-- MP4VT2004
Dec 08, 2023 at 01:01 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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12/08/23 01:01 PM ET
I'm sure there are poor decisions, absolutely.
-- Beerman
Dec 08, 2023 at 01:39 PM ET
Beerman
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12/08/23 01:39 PM ET
I made no attempt to quantify the cases of either scenario.
-- MP4VT2004
Dec 08, 2023 at 02:28 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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12/08/23 02:28 PM ET
So... do away with collegiate athletics. The only reason this site exists.**
-- No_Limit_Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:33 AM ET
No_Limit_Hokie
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12/08/23 11:33 AM ET
No reason to do that. Also no reason to place unreasonable restrictions on
-- reestuart
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:52 AM ET
reestuart
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12/08/23 11:52 AM ET
My statement was an obviously sarcastic comment to the post. That's all.**
-- No_Limit_Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 12:07 PM ET
No_Limit_Hokie
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12/08/23 12:07 PM ET
Or, you know, maybe don't take it so personally?**
-- Beerman
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:35 AM ET
Beerman
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12/08/23 11:35 AM ET
That would be you.**
-- No_Limit_Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:41 AM ET
No_Limit_Hokie
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12/08/23 11:41 AM ET
Portal gave us Tuten, APR, Jaylin, many others. I say Power to the Portal.**
-- Zanderhokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:18 AM ET
Zanderhokie
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12/08/23 11:18 AM ET
…and Drones and Wells**
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 06:10 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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12/08/23 06:10 PM ET
Participation trophies have been around a lot longer than this generation
-- Pylons
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:32 AM ET
Pylons
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12/08/23 10:32 AM ET
Unlimited free agency. It’s a mess and completely unsustainable
-- fordham
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:16 AM ET
fordham
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12/08/23 10:16 AM ET
Predictable - and exactly what most fans & writers unwittingly supported.
-- marcbvtgm
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:16 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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12/08/23 11:16 AM ET
I'm not sure the old way, where the coach and school had complete control
-- VTHokie2000
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:28 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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12/08/23 10:28 AM ET
The Portal is a lot closer to the free market in action
-- Zanderhokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:27 AM ET
Zanderhokie
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12/08/23 11:27 AM ET
This is such a tired, worthless excuse to say you don't like
-- hoosnowahokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:50 AM ET
hoosnowahokie
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12/08/23 09:50 AM ET
And it is worthless to not care if an 18yr old moves on without concern
-- Hokey Pokey
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:46 AM ET
Hokey Pokey
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12/08/23 10:46 AM ET
Some of these kids were bamboozled in the recruiting process
-- Happy Dog
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:58 AM ET
Happy Dog
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12/08/23 11:58 AM ET
Just admit this was never about making the NCAA share revenue
-- WildTurkE
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:35 AM ET
WildTurkE
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12/08/23 10:35 AM ET
The tendency of some to assume the worst is unfortunate**
-- Pylons
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:30 AM ET
Pylons
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12/08/23 10:30 AM ET
Some yes, but what about the kids that were sold on a coach and he leaves
-- Hokie_N_NC
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:41 AM ET
Hokie_N_NC
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12/08/23 09:41 AM ET
No, they're all lazy, entitled brats! 🙄🙄🙄**
-- Pylons
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:33 AM ET
Pylons
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12/08/23 10:33 AM ET
The problem is that the majority don't improve their situation.
-- Hokey Pokey
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:59 AM ET
Hokey Pokey
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12/08/23 09:59 AM ET
you have no clue if that's true. What if they move on to a better school,
-- reestuart
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:21 AM ET
reestuart
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12/08/23 11:21 AM ET
Better school? Obviously no longer talking about scholastics.**
-- AZHokie59
Dec 08, 2023 at 12:03 PM ET
AZHokie59
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12/08/23 12:03 PM ET
except maybe some of these kids move for that? Hypothetically speaking,
-- reestuart
Dec 08, 2023 at 01:03 PM ET
reestuart
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12/08/23 01:03 PM ET
If only 54% actually got to a new school, there are then others that most
-- Hokey Pokey
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:24 AM ET
Hokey Pokey
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12/08/23 11:24 AM ET
That number is not going to really be a fair account. There are tons of
-- reestuart
Dec 08, 2023 at 12:01 PM ET
reestuart
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12/08/23 12:01 PM ET
It is possible that some of the NCAA's data may be slightly skewed when you
-- VTHokie2000
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:58 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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12/08/23 11:58 AM ET
Wow. Didn't realize the 54% figure.
-- Pylons
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:27 AM ET
Pylons
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12/08/23 11:27 AM ET
Most leave because they are pushed out. **
-- Femoyer Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:24 AM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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12/08/23 10:24 AM ET
You are stating that as a fact. It's not. It is just your opinion
-- HokieAl
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:13 AM ET
HokieAl
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12/08/23 10:13 AM ET
I doubt there are many leaving because of that
-- Vienna_Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:13 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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12/08/23 10:13 AM ET
But they need to stay where they are, no matter how miserable!!!
-- reestuart
Dec 08, 2023 at 11:23 AM ET
reestuart
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12/08/23 11:23 AM ET
Boomers and Gen X’ers love free market capitalism
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-- BG Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:30 AM ET
BG Hokie
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12/08/23 09:30 AM ET
And use of the term “participation trophy” is a very clear heads up that a
-- North Main Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 04:55 PM ET
North Main Hokie
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12/08/23 04:55 PM ET
Everyone loves free market capitalism. Some just can't admit it.
-- Techsupport
Dec 08, 2023 at 01:09 PM ET
Techsupport
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12/08/23 01:09 PM ET
"like our genetically inferior children did…"**
-- No_Limit_Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:36 AM ET
No_Limit_Hokie
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12/08/23 09:36 AM ET
Ha, did you like that one? LOL. Making fun of myself too!**
-- BG Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:39 AM ET
BG Hokie
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12/08/23 09:39 AM ET
They are more like part time contractors than students.
-- OrlandoHokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:14 AM ET
OrlandoHokie
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12/08/23 09:14 AM ET
So many players in the portal because it's THEIR future
-- Beerman
Dec 08, 2023 at 08:44 AM ET
Beerman
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12/08/23 08:44 AM ET
Absolutely, the portal allows players to sort to their level
-- Happy Dog
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:09 AM ET
Happy Dog
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12/08/23 09:09 AM ET
Got to remember what started this issue...the COVID extension.
-- EDGEMAN
Dec 08, 2023 at 08:12 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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12/08/23 08:12 AM ET
Yes, this should be the last year of the 6 year player..mostly
-- Vienna_Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 08:37 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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12/08/23 08:37 AM ET
Not just sign with a new program, but how many actually better their stats?
-- Hokey Pokey
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:22 AM ET
Hokey Pokey
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12/08/23 09:22 AM ET
lot's of things to look at, but since the why is rarely understood
-- Vienna_Hokie
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:51 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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12/08/23 09:51 AM ET
Some are chasing championships, others playing time, and some the right fit
-- GSOHokie01
Dec 08, 2023 at 08:03 AM ET
GSOHokie01
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12/08/23 08:03 AM ET
Did your son think about transferring to another school?**
-- VTHokie2000
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:40 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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12/08/23 10:40 AM ET
Nope, he was there for the ME degree
-- Happy Dog
Dec 08, 2023 at 10:44 AM ET
Happy Dog
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12/08/23 10:44 AM ET
However hundreds are just going to ride the pine at a different school
-- Hokey Pokey
Dec 08, 2023 at 08:17 AM ET
Hokey Pokey
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12/08/23 08:17 AM ET
You are correct but they have to try and subsequently learn that lesson.
-- GSOHokie01
Dec 08, 2023 at 09:26 AM ET
GSOHokie01
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12/08/23 09:26 AM ET