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You're moving goalposts again.
You rationalized - incorrectly - that other events would justify a 15k arena. Then you rationalized - incorrectly - arena capacity could become a requirement. Now you're shifting to game attendance being a requirement - again incorrectly - without any facts to support it.
The facts are that avg home attendance for SEC/BIG is ~10.5k. Avg for B1G/ACC/BigEast is about 9.5k. So P5 avg home attendance is under 10k...not even remotely close to 15k.
The current capacity of Cassell is large enough to basically put it at slightly above the avg attendance for P5 teams and just slightly below average for SEC/B1G - if people show up. Given the population and geographic isolation of the Blacksburg area, VT can't possibly aspire to being much better than avg given the inherent advantage schools in metropolitan areas have in filling seats.
And even if it Cassell were to become a smaller, say, 8,000 seat arena, it would still be able to seat more than avg attendance for 13 SEC/B1G schools. So there's no way an 8,000 seat arena would not meet a capacity requirement.
VT's problem is an attendance problem, not a capacity problem - the avg attendance this season is ~4,500. Building a 15k enormodome is not going to solve that and would probably make it worse because $$ would be diverted from improving the basketball program (and other programs including football) to servicing the debt on 5k+ empty seats.
Thread Replies (40)
not a very big crowd for last night's game**
-- lazarus1
Mar 04, 2026 at 12:33 PM ET
lazarus1
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03/04/26 12:33 PM ET
Late start on a Tues night vs one of not so good teams in the league.**
-- sideline guy
Mar 05, 2026 at 11:28 AM ET
sideline guy
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03/05/26 11:28 AM ET
hokies need to play all their home games at the 20k seats Capital One Arena
-- Windows NT
Mar 05, 2026 at 12:23 AM ET
Windows NT
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03/05/26 12:23 AM ET
Well at least it wasn't in a new 15k+, $125mm+ underutilized building
-- Vippie1
Mar 04, 2026 at 04:19 PM ET
Vippie1
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03/04/26 04:19 PM ET
I brought up the Cassell renovation/replacement subject a few days ago and
-- ftsumterhokie
Mar 05, 2026 at 12:44 PM ET
ftsumterhokie
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03/05/26 12:44 PM ET
I don't think anybody is advocating for that.
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 05, 2026 at 09:59 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/05/26 09:59 AM ET
Given the issues VT is facing with Cassell now, it seems to me that VT
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 05, 2026 at 10:27 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/05/26 10:27 AM ET
I personally don't think so.
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 05, 2026 at 10:31 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/05/26 10:31 AM ET
That is a fair assessment. I have always viewed concerts and other similar
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 05, 2026 at 10:57 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/05/26 10:57 AM ET
They could pursue concerts, sure.
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 05, 2026 at 11:54 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/05/26 11:54 AM ET
I believe the Globetrotters annually play a game at JMU, so it would be
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 05, 2026 at 11:58 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/05/26 11:58 AM ET
Pinnacle Bank Arena (PBA) can serve as a model
-- huskerHokie
Mar 05, 2026 at 11:16 AM ET
huskerHokie
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03/05/26 11:16 AM ET
I agree VT doesn't have a daily need to have arena capacity of 15,500.
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 05, 2026 at 11:51 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/05/26 11:51 AM ET
I think that kind of extra space kills atmosphere, though.**
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 05, 2026 at 12:02 PM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/05/26 12:02 PM ET
It can, but it may not be as noticeable if done right. For example, if the
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 05, 2026 at 12:24 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/05/26 12:24 PM ET
We don't need 15K+ capacity, but we do need a modern arena.
-- Gobbler Guru
Mar 04, 2026 at 04:58 PM ET
Gobbler Guru
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03/04/26 04:58 PM ET
There's a middle ground though (that I know you don't agree with) ...
-- I love VT!
Mar 04, 2026 at 10:59 PM ET
I love VT!
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03/04/26 10:59 PM ET
I get doing the reno but I am firmly against a new arena
-- Walkin` Willie
Mar 04, 2026 at 05:49 PM ET
Walkin` Willie
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03/04/26 05:49 PM ET
Yeah, a modern 8K or so arena would be plenty. There are so many things
-- reestuart
Mar 04, 2026 at 05:26 PM ET
reestuart
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03/04/26 05:26 PM ET
VT may not need a 15K capacity arena from an attendance standpoint.
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 04, 2026 at 05:15 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/04/26 05:15 PM ET
My HS played a regional BB game in Cassell in the late 60s. **
-- TomTurkey
Mar 04, 2026 at 09:06 PM ET
TomTurkey
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03/04/26 09:06 PM ET
Got beaten by 2 by Langston HS; a team I've never heard of, before or since**
-- TomTurkey
Mar 05, 2026 at 12:13 PM ET
TomTurkey
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03/05/26 12:13 PM ET
2 of 3 options UNC is looking at is a new ~17k arena. Est cost $703M-$786M
-- marcbvtgm
Mar 04, 2026 at 07:12 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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03/04/26 07:12 PM ET
With an estimated $20M yearly revenue. Not a very good ROI in my mind. No
-- 40ozDistrict
Mar 05, 2026 at 06:23 PM ET
40ozDistrict
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03/05/26 06:23 PM ET
Maybe so, but I wasn't assuming Cassell 2.0 necessarily had to have that
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 04, 2026 at 09:12 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/04/26 09:12 PM ET
There is no reality where VT will significantly outgrow a 7-10k arena
-- marcbvtgm
Mar 05, 2026 at 10:33 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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03/05/26 10:33 AM ET
The outgrow may not be actual attendance but satisfying new requirements
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 05, 2026 at 11:01 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/05/26 11:01 AM ET
You're moving goalposts now. Regardless, no chance this'll be a requirement
-- marcbvtgm
Mar 05, 2026 at 02:34 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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03/05/26 02:34 PM ET
A reason attendance could become a requirement is the same reason the
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 05, 2026 at 09:58 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/05/26 09:58 PM ET
You're moving goalposts again.
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-- marcbvtgm
Mar 06, 2026 at 11:29 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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03/06/26 11:29 AM ET
To your point about Roanoke...
-- Gobbler Guru
Mar 04, 2026 at 06:46 PM ET
Gobbler Guru
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03/04/26 06:46 PM ET
Given that Blacksburg and Christiansburg are in close proximity to each
-- VTHokie2000
Mar 04, 2026 at 10:01 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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03/04/26 10:01 PM ET
Oh I get that. We have got to spend money .
-- Vippie1
Mar 04, 2026 at 05:06 PM ET
Vippie1
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03/04/26 05:06 PM ET
It was a GOOD crowd for 9:00 weeknight game! Student really showed!**
-- HokieHeartNSoul
Mar 04, 2026 at 04:15 PM ET
HokieHeartNSoul
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03/04/26 04:15 PM ET
Excellent student crowd. **
-- I love VT!
Mar 04, 2026 at 01:57 PM ET
I love VT!
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03/04/26 01:57 PM ET
The students were fired up.**
-- Will Stewart
Mar 04, 2026 at 08:53 PM ET
Will Stewart
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03/04/26 08:53 PM ET
Especially when Scott (?) Nailed his half court shot at halftime**
-- GusDaMan
Mar 04, 2026 at 09:26 PM ET
GusDaMan
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03/04/26 09:26 PM ET
9 pm Tuesday will really get after ya**
-- VT Pez4Life
Mar 04, 2026 at 12:52 PM ET
VT Pez4Life
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03/04/26 12:52 PM ET
Against BC no less**
-- hoosnowahokie
Mar 04, 2026 at 01:16 PM ET
hoosnowahokie
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03/04/26 01:16 PM ET